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Old 02-17-2011, 07:44 AM
 
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And that differs from the HHS setting medical treatment protocol under Obamacare how?
Setting protocols is one thing, dictating a procedure or refusing one on purely ideological grounds is not. Hence Roe.

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How is abortion for a healthy fetus in a healthy woman a "medical treatment"?
How is it not? It is a medical procedure. Whether it is elective or not isn't and shouldn't be any of the government's business outside of paying for it. I wouldn't fund elective abortions, but I think it is an awful, communist idea for the government to criminalize it. It should be none of the government's damn business.

But this THE issue that conservatives are the most hypocritical on.

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There is no disease being treated as pregnancy is a normal and temporary condition.
Irrelevant to my point, which is that government shouldn't be involved.

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It is an invasive medical procedure, traumatic to both the woman and the life within her being forceably killed and removed, but as a "treatment" when the woman and fetus are both healthy? No, I don't see that.
In other words, it's medical treatment, and should be none of the government's damn business.

You've made some irrelevant straw man arguments, but have not addressed mine.
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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What im getting at here is no one can be 100% responsible for their actions.
This is something conservatives can not fathom
Unless they are talking about someone else, then it's just fine.

Because THESE people are not really conservatives. They are right-wing authoritarians who convince themselves they are not.
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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[quote=momonkey;17899323]And developing children prior to birth are not "people" because five guys declared them to be "unpersons"?
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By what authority did the state make that medical and reproductive decision?
Who cares, if the result is the government stays out of it.

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Why is that within bounds but not any other powers the state might assume?
Privacy. Personal responsibility. Not to mention the awful precedent it sets.
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