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Old 02-16-2011, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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How is it not murder? In order to perform an abortion correctly, the brain stem must be severed, or limbs torn apart, or brain matter vacuumed out of the base of the skull, or acid burning; all without anesthesia. Abortion is a barbaric, horrific practice all in the name of "choice." Explain to me why this is acceptable to you?

Edit: Ironic that you quoted Lenin, when he was an advocate of abortion, euthanasia and eugenics; a hero of the radical left.
Maybe what you list above is true in a late term abortion, but the majority of abortions take place very early in the first trimester of pregnancy. The abortion I had at 6 weeks was basically a D&C .
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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............I guess they need some old ca$h cow to beat
Irony alert!

Women who choose abortion as a means of birth control instead of exercising reproductive responsibility through effective contraception control are ca$h cows for abortion mills like Planned Parenthood.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Irony alert!

Women who choose abortion as a means of birth control instead of exercising reproductive responsibility through effective contraception control are ca$h cows for abortion mills like Planned Parenthood.
Less than 3% of the services performed by PP are abortions.

Contraception fails, not even sterilization is 100%.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Yes I realize that...

My point is that conservatives claim to want less government control...except when it comes to abortion, etc.
Its because many see it as no different then killing an adult which happens to be illegal. So for those its not a matter of smaller gov but protecting life. Those that bring this up, should we make it legal to kill adults? To keep the gov out of our lives as far as taking other lives?
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Irony alert!

Women who choose abortion as a means of birth control instead of exercising reproductive responsibility through effective contraception control are ca$h cows for abortion mills like Planned Parenthood.
Irony? No different than any other elective, legal procedure.

And you are wrong, there is NO 100% effective method of birth control other than abstinence, and we know that's going nowhere!

As opposed to the GOP that pays lip service to ending abortion but makes no real effort, it's too good a selling point for the party coffers to give up.

This is just typical right wing BS, claim to support less government interference until it suits your agenda, then it's "GIVE US MORE GOVERNMENT!"
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Its because many see it as no different then killing an adult which happens to be illegal. So for those its not a matter of smaller gov but protecting life. Those that bring this up, should we make it legal to kill adults? To keep the gov out of our lives as far as taking other lives?
"because many see it as" doesn't make it so.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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"because many see it as" doesn't make it so.
It makes it so to them.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Irony? No different than any other elective, legal procedure.

And you are wrong, there is NO 100% effective method of birth control other than abstinence, and we know that's going nowhere!

As opposed to the GOP that pays lip service to ending abortion but makes no real effort, it's too good a selling point for the party coffers to give up.

This is just typical right wing BS, claim to support less government interference until it suits your agenda, then it's "GIVE US MORE GOVERNMENT!"
Yeah I know heaven forbid people wait to have sex or if they do make that choice they take responsibility for that choice.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Its because many see it as no different then killing an adult which happens to be illegal...

But abortions are not illegal, so why bring that into the discussion? The law says it's not murder.
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Old 02-16-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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How is it not murder? In order to perform an abortion correctly, the brain stem must be severed, or limbs torn apart, or brain matter vacuumed out of the base of the skull, or acid burning; all without anesthesia. Abortion is a barbaric, horrific practice all in the name of "choice." Explain to me why this is acceptable to you?
Limbs? What stage are you talking about?

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Edit: Ironic that you quoted Lenin, when he was an advocate of abortion, euthanasia and eugenics; a hero of the radical left.
How ironic you say Lenin is a hero of the radical left when one of the radical right's great heroes, the drunk Senator from Wisconsin, was a great believer in using Lenin's theory of lying 'til the words became truth.
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