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Old 05-06-2009, 09:51 AM
 
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I'm well into the top 1% of income earners, far beyond Obama's proposed $250K limit. I'm also usually taken to be one of those liberals, and I can tell you without the slightest hesitation that the rich are quite able to sustain significant additional tax burdens -- burdens that could help restore fiscal balance and fund much needed works and programs -- without so much as a noticeable dent in their lifestyles. Bush has basically been giving us a free ride at others' expense since 2001. It's long past time for that to end.
Holy Crap! next thing you know they will be doling out those $20,000 'commode with legs' that the crooked execs get!
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I'm well into the top 1% of income earners, far beyond Obama's proposed $250K limit. I'm also usually taken to be one of those liberals, and I can tell you without the slightest hesitation that the rich are quite able to sustain significant additional tax burdens -- burdens that could help restore fiscal balance and fund much needed works and programs -- without so much as a noticeable dent in their lifestyles. Bush has basically been giving us a free ride at others' expense since 2001. It's long past time for that to end.

I'm sure most americans are "quite able" to sustain additional tax burdens if they didnt have to have the coolest new phone, Ipod, shoes, vacations, cars, etc.

That's not even the point. I was responding to the girl that said she was tired of people being in other peoples' business as far as what they make and what they are buying, etc.
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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No, it is a simple fact that illegals pay taxes. Lots and lots of them. If you want to join in the silly sing-along about illegals as a group not paying taxes, you'll only end up looking as foolish as the OP.

But are they paying their fair share?
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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But are they paying their fair share?

Probably not. Instead of the President hiring 800 new IRS agents to track down millionairs offshore accounts, these agents could be better used to track down illegals fraudulently using bogus SSN#'s or some unknowing victim. Many of these employers have to know that their hiring someone illegal.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:00 AM
 
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Actually he is correct. Those illegal immigrants that receive a paycheck and have federal and state withholdings are paying taxes, however they will not FILE taxes for a potential refund for fear of being caught (of course their using someone else's social)
On the contrary, illegals do receive tax refunds, even though they are illegals.

http://www.treas.gov/tigta/auditrepo...00940057fr.pdf

They do so by obtaining TIN numbers, or they simply do not receive paychecks on the books..
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:03 AM
 
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Another blanket statement...
It was actually a question.

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...as if the only alternative is abortion and simply not screwing or simple use of protection is an outlandish request.
What was the last abstinence program that worked? What are the contraceptive methods that have a 0% failure rate even if perfectly put into practice? The larger point though goes toward the incredible inconsistency of encouraging every woman who becomes pregnant to carry to term, then blasting them for having chosen to have a baby. Hello?

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But then we cant expect the poor to be responsible before the child is born just like we dont expect them to be responsible after..
We certainly shouldn't expect the poor or anyone else to be responsible to you, much as you might wish to become welfare-tsarina so as to exact some pound or two of flesh from such folks...
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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No, it is a simple fact that illegals pay taxes. Lots and lots of them. If you want to join in the silly sing-along about illegals as a group not paying taxes, you'll only end up looking as foolish as the OP.
They pay SOME taxes, but they dont even come close to paying in taxes what they cost us..

JG-TC.com > Opinion > LETTER: Illegal aliens cost US taxpayers plenty (http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/2009/04/16/opinion/letters/doc49e7d9ac1cfc0749615348.txt - broken link)

To claim that they ALL pay taxes, and pay ALL of the taxes that they would as a citizen is just wrong..
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:06 AM
 
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Everything bolded also applies to Republicans. If you cant acknowledge that fact you have some serious problems.
This would make illegals and Republicans equal through Paragraph-1. The tie is broken as Republicans sink into the depths over Paragraph-2. Deport them. It's the only way...
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:08 AM
 
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It was actually a question.
And a foolish one at that
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What was the last abstinence program that worked?
Ahh, I get it.. we need programs to tel people that if they have a child, they become liable for raising them.. Yeah, common sense out the window..
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We certainly shouldn't expect the poor or anyone else to be responsible to you, much as you might wish to become welfare-tsarina so as to exact some pound or two of flesh from such folks...
Ahh but you do expect me to be responsible for them though.. I see, it only works one way..
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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This would make illegals and Republicans equal through Paragraph-1. The tie is broken as Republicans sink into the depths over Paragraph-2. Deport them. It's the only way...

Ahhh...except the fact that in the 1st paragraph the illegals are, well, illegal. The republicans arent. Republicans Up 1 through 1. Then the fact that, while illegals may pay some taxes, they're not paying what they should. That closes out the game with Repubs up 2 with 1 to go. (match play of course). Then we could go to the illegals having no health insurance so their bills are paid by????any guesses???Tax-paying citizens (some of which are even the evil republicans)
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