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Old 05-02-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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LOL ok. The arguments on this forum are really pathetic from both sides. Bunch of whiner babies give give take take where are the real solutions?
When discussing a cost of ten cents per week per taxpayer, only one side would qualify as a whiner.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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I think crack should be legal. I said that the parasites obtained cash by illegal methods.

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Expanding the original statement doesn't clarify your argument.

In the post I was responding to, in which you described a practice known to everyone not living in a cave, I asked if this was the basis for your argument against the poor: That there exists a market for crack cocaine, and in a country as free as ours, there are people who capitalize on this demand. Is this your argument against the poor? Drug addiction in a free, capitalistic society?
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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ten cents per week per tax payer is nothing. but that's just 1 program. what happens when it's 500,000 programs. suddenly, it's a lot.

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When discussing a cost of ten cents per week per taxpayer, only one side would qualify as a whiner.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:45 PM
 
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I think crack should be legal. I said that the parasites obtained cash by illegal methods.
Okie-dokie. I'm already aware that there are people, of all kinds, who obtain cash by illegal methods. People break the law, especially for economic reward. What does any of this have to do with your opposition to assistance for the poor?
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:47 PM
 
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When discussing a cost of ten cents per week per taxpayer, only one side would qualify as a whiner.
Luckily I am not on the right. But really welfare needs to be reformed. This program sounds great but please do keep in mind it is the US government at work. Watch it fail and watch how people like you will still defend it.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:48 PM
 
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ten cents per week per tax payer is nothing. but that's just 1 program. what happens when it's 500,000 programs. suddenly, it's a lot.
That's fine, but the OP is specific. We're not discussing total spending. If we were, we'd have to include everyone's pet projects, including some I'm sure you support.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:49 PM
 
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ten cents per week per tax payer is nothing. but that's just 1 program. what happens when it's 500,000 programs. suddenly, it's a lot.
Exactly....
Irony of Irony its this mentality that "hey its only a couple of bucks "that gets so many folks into trouble.
If I charge this new TV it will only be 30.00 a month.
Dish TV is only 50.00 a month
I'll lease the car for only 199.00 per month
Cell phone is only 45.00 per month
My point being it all adds up.
Pork spending is based on the same concept as is all Gov waste.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:50 PM
 
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who said I have a problem with it? I don't believe that the federal government is a charity organization. I also believe that a huge percentage of people abuse the system. a HUGE percentage. I believe that these government programs actually hurt people. if I had an opposition to assistance for the poor, I would not give money to the duke children's hospital or habitat for humanity.

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Okie-dokie. I'm already aware that there are people, of all kinds, who obtain cash by illegal methods. People break the law, especially for economic reward. What does any of this have to do with your opposition to assistance for the poor?
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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That's fine, but the OP is specific. We're not discussing total spending. If we were, we'd have to include everyone's pet projects, including some I'm sure you support.
But thats the point where many of us take issue with such waste. Because it is in fact part of the total spending. One can hardly seperate the 2 issues.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:54 PM
 
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Luckily I am not on the right. But really welfare needs to be reformed. This program sounds great but please do keep in mind it is the US government at work. Watch it fail and watch how people like you will still defend it.
I'm not defending anything. Indeed, I ask myself, and have asked in this very thread, what are the viable solutions? In opposition to the current system, I've seen a lot of screaming and foot stomping, but I've read no ideas.
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