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View Poll Results: Will there be a government shutdown?
Yes 72 63.16%
No 24 21.05%
Not sure 18 15.79%
Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-08-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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We have in income of about 2.5 trillion a year. We spend about 3.7 trillion a year IIRC. We're pizzing around discussing 40 billion a year in cuts. So rather than a defecit of 1.7 trillion dollars, we'll have one of 1.66 trillion. Both parties are foolish, we can't continue to spend 50% more than we bring in. How can people on both sides of the aisle be this flippin' stupid?
That is a very good question. The GOP is proposing to cut chump change, barely half of what they already increased the deficit by in this fiscal year alone. The Democrats are proposing to cut even less.

Neither Republicans nor Democrats are serious about reducing deficit spending, that much is very obvious.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The Repubs have lost this argument, they just refuse to acknowledge that. They cannot hide what they are doing, too easy for Americans to see.
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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The Repubs seem to be intent on having a Shutdown. What will it entail?

Possible Government Shutdown Puts Local Jobs in Jeopardy - Local News - Hagerstown, MD - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41956488 - broken link)
Nothing of any consequence...it would be a shot in the arm for the American economy if it stayed shut down for a year!
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The Repubs have lost this argument, they just refuse to acknowledge that. They cannot hide what they are doing, too easy for Americans to see.
the dumbocrats are just wrong

CUT the spending..cut it BIG..cut it across the board

but the tax and SPEND dumbocrats cant fuigure out that 2.1 trillion income, with 3.7 trillion outgoing is a bad thing
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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If the Taliban is going to insert all of their religious beliefs why hasn't Reid put the Bush Tax cuts back in.
Obama, of course, is in such a hurry to make a deal that he forgets what he is supposed to stand for.
I am a Disabled Veteran and I would live in a dumpster before I would give an inch to these thugs
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If the Taliban is going to insert all of their religious beliefs why hasn't Reid put the Bush Tax cuts back in.
Obama, of course, is in such a hurry to make a deal that he forgets what he is supposed to stand for.
I am a Disabled Veteran and I would live in a dumpster before I would give an inch to these thugs
I am a disabled veteran too, an I have yet to see the liberals do a good thing yet

why cant liberals figure out we need to cut spending
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:28 AM
 
Location: somewhere
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That is a very good question. The GOP is proposing to cut chump change, barely half of what they already increased the deficit by in this fiscal year alone. The Democrats are proposing to cut even less.

Neither Republicans nor Democrats are serious about reducing deficit spending, that much is very obvious.

You are very correct both parties are to be blamed, however when you say as a politician you want to cut spending across the board in order to take care of our deficit, that all departments that make up the federal gov't will have to be cut, yet you FAIL to cut the defense budget and even raise the funding for the defense budget then you are not serious either about cutting the deficit. This is what was proposed in the Republicans 2012 budget that was presented on Tuesday. Sad to say the majority of the defense funding isn't for day to day operations that affect the men and women in the ground, it is pay defense contractors. We spend billions of dollars to build new planes, weapons and any other number of things that then after years of production we find they don't work. This is money paid to big companies such as Lockheed Martin.

To say that this possible closure will come due to a rider that will cut funding to PP is outrageous, to say it is because they perform abortions is even more riduculous, PP does so much more and as I have said before federal funds CANNOT be used for abortions. Do the Republicans really want to take away the right of those women who are less fortunate from receiving cancer screenings, access to birth control simply because of someone's ideals? I just heard that the Democrats have agreed to $38 billion in budget cuts, and yes it is barely a drop in the bucket but for the Republicans to refuse to meet them halfway is wrong. The polls will tell the story next year.
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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Breaking: Budget deal? Update: Not yet; Reid says Planned Parenthood higher priority than funding government « Hot Air


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Reid said that in addition to agreeing on the spending cut, negotiators had worked out policy disputes, which involve environmental protection, implementing President Barack Obama’s health care law, and regulating the Internet.

But Reid said Democrats are holding the line on a plan to cut off Planned Parenthood from federal money.

“That is an issue, as the president said last night, that we are not bending on,” Reid said
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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the dumbocrats are just wrong

CUT the spending..cut it BIG..cut it across the board

but the tax and SPEND dumbocrats cant fuigure out that 2.1 trillion income, with 3.7 trillion outgoing is a bad thing
I don't have a problem with the Repubs calling for spending cuts. The Country needs to do that. But, I do not think, the GOP blocking the up/down vote on paying the Military during the budget battle, is an example of good representation. They are shamelessly adding 12bil of their favorite cuts to that effort. The up/down clean Military spending should be a no brainer. It was voted down by the Repubs. Instead, we have no brainer Repubs holding our troops and families hostage, that cannot be hidden.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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the dumbocrats are just wrong

CUT the spending..cut it BIG..cut it across the board

but the tax and SPEND dumbocrats cant fuigure out that 2.1 trillion income, with 3.7 trillion outgoing is a bad thing
So true! That's because the Dumbocrats are STUPID.
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