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Old 05-20-2011, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Yes, you're correct, the Palestinians have chosen to fight. But that is because previous attempts at peace have not given them fair terms.

Please tell me what those unfair terms might be.

as Peter Combs says:

“How many agreements have they had with the Palestinia­ns over the years? How many have the Palestinia­ns broken? The answer is ALL of them. Every single one....

Do some homework..­who started the '67 war? who won the '67 war? you bet they claimed the land ....thats not stealing..”
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You don't remotely understand the relationship between Israel and ourselves. Did you know that Israel is the second largest supplier of technology to China? This includes military technology. Do you know how much we glom from them? Ponder the implications of NOT being on friendly relations based solely on that little tidbit.

You must think Israel is just a dust bucket in middle east run solely on US help. Do a little less one minded research and maybe you'll "get it" at some point.
Get what? How much time & $$$ we waste there that would be better spent solving our own problems?

Since you apparently consider yourself expert why don't you tell us how much we 'glom' from them and at what cost? That is if you know.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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Because they are our only other real ally and Democracy in the Middle East.
"Ally" is a pretty malleable word in this case. They spy on us constantly and work pretty hard to get us involved in wars that THEY should undertake themselves.

Anyway, Israel is a wealthy nation. They don't need our picayune aid money anyway. They can simply reject the aid money and act on their own without our input. We won't stop them....

It's not President Obama's job to kiss their hind parts.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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This is what you site as evidence????

You're not the sharpest kid in your class, are you?
I'm proud of you: at least you looked at the evidence
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Get what? How much time & $$$ we waste there that would be better spent solving our own problems?

Since you apparently consider yourself expert why don't you tell us how much we 'glom' from them and at what cost? That is if you know.
Wow! So just pointing out a few facts makes me an expert? Is that the criteria? If I point out facts that you can't refudiate then I must think myself the expert.

All you do is answer questions with questions. This isn't a debate, it's a peeing contest and I'm pretty much done trying to reason with you.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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The Palestinians are the ones who have chosen to fight. They are given consessions only to break agreements over and over again. When Israel was given their country back they absorbed millions of Jews from the surrounding countries. The Arab countries did the opposite when it came to the Palestinian people.

Again I ask, why do you think 90% of the Arabs that live in Israel want Israel to remain in control?
Why were Arab nations obligated to take in Arab non-citizens of their countries when the Palestinians already had a place to live in....ISRAEL! Or "Palestine" if you prefer?
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Wherever women are
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This is what you site as evidence????

You're not the sharpest kid in your class, are you?
Tactic#1:

When encountering valid evidence which blunts every possibility of a counter-argument, resort to personal attacks on the messenger. Use emoticons for added effect.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Do some homework..*who started the '67 war? who won the '67 war? you bet they claimed the land ....thats not stealing..”

1967 was not an isolated anomaly at all; rather, tensions had been building for years

I encourage you to look further back in time. What was the cause of the 1967 war? I'll tell you: The establishment of an Israeli state in land that was already promised (by Britain) to Arabs and was already occupied by Palestinians. Now that, is stealing.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Wow! So just pointing out a few facts makes me an expert? Is that the criteria? If I point out facts that you can't refudiate then I must think myself the expert.

All you do is answer questions with questions. This isn't a debate, it's a peeing contest and I'm pretty much done trying to reason with you.
Facts? You presented no facts! You asked if I knew how much we 'glom'. Were you planning on pointing out any facts sometime soon?

BTW, I don't believe I've even seen you start trying to reason.
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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And more sanctioned Jew hatred from the left...
Bulllllloney.

I'm practically a Judophile, not that I am "left" in any real sense of the word.

Since when does that have to equate with supporting any and every Israeli government and policy?

Netanyahu is a dangerous Zionist ideologue - who should be taking orders from US, not the other way around.

I hope Obama b****slaps him, Chicago style.
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