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Old 05-20-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So instead of partisan bickering and using "Bush did it" as the moral justification to break the law, why don't we just stop? Does Obama have to mess things up further, the same amount that Bush did in order for us to have our country back?
I wrote my congressmen after the 2010 election and told them that if a military action is to be taken outside of the United States that I want them to declare war on said country.

I won't vote for a congressman or woman who doesn't say anything, or didn't say anything under the last administration either, if I have a viable choice.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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Oh geeze Polly...they relabeled it.
Combat troops in Iraq are "peace keeping"
The war in Libya is now a "humanitarian effort".
Obama doesn't need Congressional approval if it's part of a NATO humanitarian effort, so says Hillary. Bush didn't declare
Iraq a humanitarian effort.

Didn't you see my
sarcastic faces I'm totally against what Obama/Hillary/Susan Rice/Gates did. I know it's a war.

And I never thought I could think anyone was worse
than Bush Jr -but, here comes Obama
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Sounds like you'd approve if we start doing to the same thing to Syria.
As long as there is no "boots on the ground" it really isn't a war is it ?
There is a critical element missing in the several other areas that have oppressive leaders killing their own. UN authorization and cooperation in any intervention. If there were such support, yes I would agree with non-unilateral action.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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One more time

I want all Presidents, and all congresses to have to declare war on a country before we send one US troop to another country. When the war ends, all US troops should be sent home.

Thats the third time I've had to say that.
Okay, fine, the please tell us where the process for declaring war exists.

I have no clue where liberals and supporters of 0bama stand on this issue. As long as 0bama refers to Libya as a "humanitarian mission", even if he kills hundreds of people and destroy much of the infrastructure of a foreign country, then it's not a war?
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Dude, we never declared war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq the first time, Grenada, or Vietnam.
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Can you show me your post to

"President Bush, its time to declare war or GTFO of Iraq"?
You're kidding? Bush went to CONGRESS and was given the go ahead.

Remember, he even went to the UN.

Amazing, simply breathtakingly amazing, obama's supporters are now ok with him violating the WPA.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...35G_story.html

Death of the War Powers Act?

Thanks to obama.

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By Friday, the administration’s legal team is likely to announce that the clock stopped ticking on April 1 — the date when NATO “took the lead” in the bombing campaign. Since NATO is running the show, the argument will go, the War Powers Act no longer applies, and the president doesn’t have to go back to Congress after all.

But American planes and drones continued their bombing long after the April turnover — and the drones are still flying over Libya. Since the cost of the mission is at three-quarters of a billion dollars and climbing, it is sheer fiction to suggest that we are no longer a vital player in NATO’s “Operation Unified Protector.”
Obama is absolutely LAWLESS.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Obama doesn't need Congressional approval if it's part of a NATO humanitarian effort, so says Hillary. Bush didn't declare
Iraq a humanitarian effort.

Didn't you see my
sarcastic faces I'm totally against what Obama/Hillary/Susan Rice/Gates did. I know it's a war.

And I never thought I could think anyone was worse
than Bush Jr -but, here comes Obama
Take whatever Bush did, that infuriated the left, and here comes 0bama doubling down on all of it, and the left is...... fine with it? Indifferent with it? Is applauding it? Or excusing it?
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Okay, fine, the please tell us where the process for declaring war exists.

I have no clue where liberals and supporters of 0bama stand on this issue. As long as 0bama refers to Libya as a "humanitarian mission", even if he kills hundreds of people and destroy much of the infrastructure of a foreign country, then it's not a war?
BINGO..give the poster a cigar folks cause we have a winner over here in this corner !!!

Call it something other than what it really is and the sheeple will not question it.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Is Obama about to break the law? - CNN.com

Is Obama about to break the law?

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Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, tells CNN he believes Obama is trying to "bring democracy to Libya while shredding the Constitution of the United States."

"He cannot continue what he is doing in Libya without congressional authorization. When a president defiantly violates the law, that really undercuts our efforts to urge other countries to have the rule of law," Sherman said.
Amazing how so many on the Left have left their integrity and honesty in tatters while defending this president. Congressional dems/libs are basically silent, except for a few that retain their honor.

Last edited by sanrene; 05-20-2011 at 11:05 AM..
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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Libya: President Obama, Congress Faces Questions on War Powers Act - ABC News

taken from a non-right wing website.

obama is the first president in history to defy the war powers resolution. libs ***** and moan about bushs illegal wars. how does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot?
Thank you for your concern for the sensibilities of our Liberal friends by posting a link from a left leaning site. That was sure considerate of you.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Is Obama about to break the law? - CNN.com

Is Obama about to break the law?

Amazing how so many on the Left have left their integrity and honesty in tatters while defending this president.
apparently, to the left and the 0bama supporters, if Bush had only made the case for a humanitarian mission in Iraq, then they would have been fine with the Iraq invasion.

I think Saddam was killing more people, on an annual basis, then 0bama would lead us to believe Qaddafi might have.

This quote by 0bama went right out the window, and the left is apparently fine with that.

"No more ignoring the law when it's inconvenient. That is not who we are," Obama said, referring to his predecessor President George W. Bush. "We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers."

....apparently, just to arrogant rulers.
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