Time is up Obama! declare war or GTFO libya

[lifelongMOgal]

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[roysoldboy]

Originally Posted by Memphis1979

Actually Bush ignored several provisions within that budget, no bid contracts were part of that. So while he got congressional funding, he didn't spend it the way he was supposed to. And the fact that we went to war for a known false pretense even makes it worse.

But it is relevant, were you protesting the Iraq war at 59 days? Where you calling for congress to declare war?

You see, this is why its important. Because the next time a Republican President goes off on psuedowar, you'll just be a happy follower. Which makes the whole idea of your opposition hypocritical.

Now back to Obama and Libya. You just can't let that happen can you?

[roysoldboy]

Originally Posted by DexterCat

this has what to do with obama about to break the law.... ?

Alinskyite deflection is all it has to do with anything.

[Memphis1979]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

Deflection is one of the better methods of good old Saul Alinsky, don't you think.

Deflection has been used by far more then just that one community organizer.

I'm a constructionist, I like my constitution to be followed, neither party does that. My problem with this thread, and many like it, is that the posters who will complain now aren't complaining when the other side of the aisle does it.

I've already written a nasty gram to our current President, and my congressmen. I'm willing to bet 200 dollars that the OP hasn't done that now, and didn't do it under the last administration.

Without taking both sides to task on issues like this, we are only furthering the problem, and not fixing anything. I'd ask that everyone who has a problem with this now write their congressmen, whether Republican or Democrat, and let them know that in the future, if they let a President do anything with the military that hasn't been declared war on, that you will never vote for that person again as long as they are in political office. You would rather vote for someone from the other aisle that is completely alien to all your other beliefs.

But seriously, it doesn't matter one way or another. We'd might as well get used to the no declaration wars, thats one power the federal government would rather have a revolt for then to give up. And the problem with a revolt, they would win.

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

So Obama has to formally request Congress for approval to continue in Libya and he has not done it yet. Article also says this was done in the past by Reagan and Clinton.
So those declaring the President is breaking the law..he's doing it with collusion of Congress who is also not saying anything.


Obama likely to miss deadline for congressional approval of Libya operations - The Washington Post
President Obama appears likely to miss a legal deadline Friday — set under the terms of a 1973 law — that requires him to obtain congressional approval for U.S. military operations in Libya.
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As of Thursday, however, the White House had still not formally requested that approval.
Congressional leaders, for their part, said very little about the deadline being missed. That might indicate they are willing to let the White House ignore a law that has been derided by some as unconstitutional."

Not saying anything?
Sure they are including Democrats;
Is Obama about to break the law? - CNN.com


Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, tells CNN he believes Obama is trying to "bring democracy to Libya while shredding the Constitution of the United States.""He cannot continue what he is doing in Libya without congressional authorization. When a president defiantly violates the law, that really undercuts our efforts to urge other countries to have the rule of law," Sherman said.