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Old 06-01-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I live in a very blue state, so Obama didn't need my vote. If the election had been close, I would have voted for Obama, because I sincerely believe that it was time for a black president. .
Kind of superficial reason to base your vote for a president upon, don't you you think?
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Kind of superficial reason to base your vote for a president upon, don't you you think?
Well there we have at least one racist thinking person who let race influence one vote. I wonder just how many of them there were out there voting in 2008.

When I went into the booth all I could think of was that I sure didn't want that white haired old man to be President but I sure didn't want that socialist who had promised to retool the US if elected. I was sure that at least one of his promises could be carried out and that would probably be the one if the Democrats won Congress. I guess I was right.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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More superficial pettiness? I suppose its all you guys have. The OP is so on target.
Superficial? You think voting against a man who sold his soul to his party for the nomination and a woman who cannot answer pertinent questions regarding the position she's running for is "superficial"?

Guess that's where we diverge in opinion. I think that's majorly f'ing critical!!!
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Ahhh, so another 2,000 pages of mind numbing, big government, legislation is what we need? Making it a law, as a function of citizenship, that every man, woman and child must buy health insurance, or be fined, punished or imprisoned, was not enough tyranny for you guys? Maybe a few thousand more waivers for noncompliance aught to do it then?
I try never to wish ill will upon anyone, but sometimes I can't help but want to be a fly on the wall when someone like yourself, after faithfully paying health insurance for 30 years, gets their coverage dropped when they're suddenly diagnosed with cancer or something....

I'm sure your answer then would be, "Well, the insurance company has every right to do so. They said it was a pre-existing condition and they wouldn't lie to keep from having to cover my treatment now....."

Tyranny? Gentlemen, I give you our current healthcare system.... That you somehow think these insurance companies are out there for the greater good and to help in crisis is laughable.... Wasn't asking for "more tyranny" sir. I'm asking for a system where keeping costs down and treating those in need is in the best interest of the provider of coverage. Currently that is NOT the case.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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Kind of superficial reason to base your vote for a president upon, don't you you think?
Hey, well at least you got the definition of "superficial" right on this one...
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Oh, I am thinking all the time. I think about how both Bush administrations got us into wars we didn't need to get into, to support their private interests. I think about how GW marred our view of democracy and humanity permanently by detaining persons without trial and torturing them. I think about the reserves he gave away in stupid disbursements, rather than keep them for times (like the present) when they would be needed.

Then I think about how President Obama has improved access to health care for MILLIONS of Americans. He's started to ramp down the war that was caused by the former administration. He's used new technology to reach past the biased lobbyists' paid for advertising and jaundiced media to the voters to inform them of his dream for America.

I WAS thinking that since Hillary lost to him, he was better than another idiot good ol' boy. NOW I am thinking how professional, objective, and productive President Obama has been AND empowered my first choice, too.

Yep, I am certainly thinking about 2012. So are the other 60% of Americans.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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No lying and thieving from the Obama group? That is very funny, but then you didn't think about that concerning Dems since the media had you under its thumb.
I have voted Repub and regretted it. The republican party has nothing to offer me and they don't want me anyway. How could i know if Obama was going to lie? I saw what Bush and Chaney did for us. Why in the hell should the middle class want anything to do with Republicans? I never heard anything in Republican campaigns that said anything about the Social agenda changes the Repubs have rolled out. Sneaky bastards. McCAIN wanted more war. REMEMBER "BOMB BOMB IRAN!" How stupid can one be to want SP as a VP?
Damn near every Repub candidate has a ton of dirty laundry. The repub. radio commentators are racist or just plain nut jobs. I remember when bush first came in to office and they had that secret energy meeting with big oil to divide up the pie.

Would you like a piece of yellow cake?
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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Yeah, what America really needed was a half white boy who was abandoned by his father, raised by his lilly white family and grew up in Hawaii before attending Harvard... someone who can really relate to the hardships that average black people go through daily.
We had a former coke head flyboy hiding in the reserves when he should have been in East Asia. Eight years of that goofus. What's your point?
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Kind of superficial reason to base your vote for a president upon, don't you you think?
At first glance, perhaps. But go a little deeper.

Wasn't it time (past time, perhaps) for our country to fully enfranchise its black citizens in light and in recognition of the centuries of slavery and oppression, and to send the signal that we are indeed equal in every way?

Didn't Mr. Obama strike you as at least as qualified as Mr. McCain? Or didn't you watch the debates? And hadn't the Bush administration been a failure in many significant ways -- and wouldn't Mr. McCain have had to draw from the same coterie of advisors and administrators that Mr Bush had?

Weren't you inspired at all by the enthusiasm and hope of the many thousands of young voters who felt empowered by our democracy for the first time? Sure, they may have been misguided politically (at least that is my take on it), but we had better get them involved now or we'l lose them to apathy and cynicism for another generation.

If forced to apply a label, I'd identify myself as a conservative-leaning moderate Republican. (There are probably about ten or fifteen of us left, you know. ) I still hold out hope that the GOP's sane wing will resurrect itself and offer some reasoned and intellectually robust response to the appalling policies of the current administration beyond foolish intimations of birth certificate fraud and pseudo-religious smears (his middle names "Hussein! Just like SADdam!") . Please. And with candidates like Palin, the Pauls, Gingrich, Trump (Trump? Are you out of your mind, America?), and the rest of the current crew as their putative choices, the Republicans are risking not only defeat but utter irrelevance.

Elect Obama because he was black? Why not? Wasn't it time for us to have an African-American as our leader? Heaven knows the dimwit-Americans, horny-Americans, and Hollywood-Americans have had their turns recently...
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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"That McCain fella isn't a bad guy.. but that lady he picked? Sheesh. he's like 800 years old and if he poops too hard, he dies and SHE'S in charge. +1 Vote for Obama"
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