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Totally agree. From the Cherokee of the Appalachia to the
Apache of the Southwest, and all in between.
---Once a captive of the United States Geronimo was put on exhibit in many towns and cities across the United States, used in parades and fairs to bring spectators, and saw as little more than a savage, non-human.
---the U.S. Army enforcement of the Removal Act rounded up 3000 Cherokee in the summer of 1838 and loaded them onto boats that traveled the Tennessee, Ohio, Mississippi, and Arkansas Rivers into Indian Territory. Many were held in prison camps awaiting their fate. In the winter of 1838-39, 14,000 were marched 1,200 miles through Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, and Arkansas into rugged Indian Territory.
---An estimated 4,000 died from hunger, exposure and disease. The journey became an eternal memory as the "trail where they cried" for the Cherokees and other removed tribes. Today it is remembered as the Trail of Tears.
What we did to the native American Indian in America
is, and will always be, the most shameful act of America.
Yes, but the US made slavery all about race...Something that has had an effect on the relationship between whites and blacks up until now. How different would things have been if Africans had been brought over and paid even a menial wage rather than kept as slaves? Would've cost more, but I wonder how different this country would be?
If they could have bought Siberians for slave labor they would have. They couldn't but the one place they could was Africa because it was already so prevalent there. It easily made its way up through the Middle East and across the entire eastern hemisphere. The Soviets made themselves slaves and called it "labour" and threw them in camps called gulags.
There's still slave "labour" in China today, right now.
See why America is different? Their slaves weren't already here so it would've been really hard to enslave its own people and there just weren't enough natives to achieve what was needed.
Slavery quickly became the leading market in America.
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I would have to say the Civil War. I believe that diplomacy would have been a better way, but then I always believe that, if given war is the alternative.
The genocide perpetrated against the Indigenous people of continent. It began with thievery, treachery, murder, and broken legal agreements. Andrew Jackson's actions during the forced removal (that's the Whitewashed historian term) of my tribe and the other tribes to the Indian Territory, now Oklahoma, is where Adolf Hitler got many of his ideas on the genocide of the Jewish in Germany. The five civilized tribes forced removal from the south began with the Choctaws. It is documented by historians that Jackson had my tribe, the Mvskoke and the Cherokee rounded up and placed in over crowded holding cells to live in any type of weather and their own excrement before the move.
Just the other day my cousin told me of an incident that is not well documented in the White version of history. That event was that some of the American solidiers who forced the march had Mvskoke women and children get in a boat to cross the Mississippi. Once they were in the middle of the river they were gunned down. There are many family tales that have been handed down that are not well covered, if documented at all, in the history.
How many of you can name the five civilized tribes? After their removal from the south they began moving other tribes like the Shawnee, the Potawatomi, the Sak and Fox and many others.
The worst thing the Americans have done is the theft of land, trickery, and genocide of the Indigenous. And Andrew Jackson is burning in hell.
What about the people that lived there before your tribe kicked them out?
Totally agree. From the Cherokee of the Appalachia to the
Apache of the Southwest, and all in between.
---Once a captive of the United States Geronimo was put on exhibit in many towns and cities across the United States, used in parades and fairs to bring spectators, and saw as little more than a savage, non-human.
---the U.S. Army enforcement of the Removal Act rounded up 3000 Cherokee in the summer of 1838 and loaded them onto boats that traveled the Tennessee, Ohio, Mississippi, and Arkansas Rivers into Indian Territory. Many were held in prison camps awaiting their fate. In the winter of 1838-39, 14,000 were marched 1,200 miles through Tennessee, Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, and Arkansas into rugged Indian Territory.
---An estimated 4,000 died from hunger, exposure and disease. The journey became an eternal memory as the "trail where they cried" for the Cherokees and other removed tribes. Today it is remembered as the Trail of Tears.
What we did to the native American Indian in America
is, and will always be, the most shameful act of America.
That doesn't come close to Lincoln's genocide... .800,000 killed and half the country destroyed.
That doesn't come close to Lincoln's genocide... .800,000 killed and half the country destroyed.
I do agree the Civil war was an atrocity.
I just watched the Civil War documentary on PBS recently - I literally can not comprehend the lose of life that occurred in most of those battles. It just blows my mind.
And it is ironic that Lee was offered the position of the head of the Union army by Abraham Lincoln.
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