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Old 07-11-2011, 05:59 PM
 
Location: The Brightest City On Earth
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I think the OP wants a national holiday, you know, like President's Day or MLK Day.
No, I do not want a holiday. I just want to come up with ways for generations to come to never forget this great President and all he did for this country and the world. You know that people born when he was President are now 20 to 30 years old and I am afraid he will become just another ex president if we don't keep him in an elevated position in history along with great Presidents like Washington and Lincoln. He is not just another mediocre ex President.
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Old 07-11-2011, 06:02 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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No, I do not want a holiday. I just want to come up with ways for generations to come to never forget this great President and all he did for this country and the world. You know that people born when he was President are now 20 to 30 years old and I am afraid he will become just another ex president if we don't keep him in an elevated position in history along with great Presidents like Washington and Lincoln. He is not just another mediocre ex President.
Don't worry yourself. He'll be remembered. For good or for ill, he'll be remembered as a president that changed the course of American politics for at least a generation.
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Old 07-11-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Reagan administration scandals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do I have to celebrate the failed trickle-down?

Legacy:
Iran-Contra...
The S&L Crisis - see Neil Bush (Savings and loan crisis in which 747 institutions failed and had to be rescued with $160 billion of taxpayer monies) ...

And so many more that people don't want to remember.
Amen. The only thing I'd nominate Reagan for is most overrated President
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Old 07-11-2011, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I don't want to argue but essentially Reagan was right on what he said. Labor markets should go to where they work is just as businesses go to where their customers are. If you cannot find work in the rust belt then you need to quit brooding over it, get up and dust yourself off and head to another place such as Texas where there are plenty of open jobs waiting for you. We have become such a nation of sissies and cry babies. We cry when we can't find a job. Our forefathers who traversed the wilderness on horseback to live better lives would laugh if they saw what this country has become.
Yea, we are a nation of heavily armed and over medicated people obsessed with accumulating Made in China junk we don't need and can't afford.

Don't blame the Founders, it's not their fault charlatans like Reagan came along and turned us into a corporatocracy.
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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Yea, we are a nation of heavily armed and over medicated people obsessed with accumulating Made in China junk we don't need and can't afford.

Don't blame the Founders, it's not their fault charlatans like Reagan came along and turned us into a corporatocracy.
That was a symptom, not the cause.

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Healthcare costs are escalating rapidly, partially due to unexpectedly high Medicare expenditures, rapid inflation in the economy, expansion of hospital expenses and profits, and changes in medical care including greater use of technology, medications, and conservative approaches to treatment. American medicine is now seen as in crisis.
PBS- Healthcare Crisis: Healthcare Timeline

Of which, as you can see, the problems you have with healthcare still existed before corporations took over at all.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No, I do not want a holiday. I just want to come up with ways for generations to come to never forget this great President and all he did for this country and the world. You know that people born when he was President are now 20 to 30 years old and I am afraid he will become just another ex president if we don't keep him in an elevated position in history along with great Presidents like Washington and Lincoln. He is not just another mediocre ex President.
History will not judge him well. He was a buffoon who already was showing signs of Alzheimer's in his first term, according to his family. He should have done the honorable thing and resigned.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:10 PM
 
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History will not judge him well. He was a buffoon who already was showing signs of Alzheimer's in his first term, according to his family. He should have done the honorable thing and resigned.
Not according to any of his doctors. The poeple most likely to even recognize those signs. But you knew this already so why you repeated the absolute lie is amazing.

The rest of your statement would have most historians cringing thinking about having to back up their initial assessments of what happened during the Reagan administration from the factual onslaught that has occurred since then.

Even they've admitted that Reagan played a crucial role in the ending of the Cold War.

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So, did Ronald Reagan bring on the end of the Cold War? Well, yes. Recently declassified documents leave no doubt about the matter.
How Reagan won the Cold War. - By Fred Kaplan - Slate Magazine
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Not according to any of his doctors. The poeple most likely to even recognize those signs. But you knew this already so why you repeated the absolute lie is amazing.

The rest of your statement would have most historians cringing thinking about having to back up their initial assessments of what happened during the Reagan administration from the factual onslaught that has occurred since then.

Even they've admitted that Reagan played a crucial role in the ending of the Cold War.



How Reagan won the Cold War. - By Fred Kaplan - Slate Magazine
His son said he was showing signs of Alzheimers in his first term. Having dealt with this issue in my own family, I can tell you the doctors are the last to know. Ask the family.

Ron Reagan Suggests Dad's Alzheimer's Began While In White House : The Two-Way : NPR
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:21 PM
 
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His son said he was showing signs of Alzheimers in his first term. Having dealt with this issue in my own family, I can tell you the doctors are the last to know. Ask the family.

Ron Reagan Suggests Dad's Alzheimer's Began While In White House : The Two-Way : NPR
Okay, but that says absolutely horrible things about the field you're in.

I'm also in a family that had to deal with it. Lost my grandfather to it and there's a very good chance I'll have it.

However, Ron is a failure in ever way. He dropped out of college to become a ballerina. I'm not even remotely interested in taking his word as fact, he's a known liar.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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And just in case you don't believe there was an economic war front from the Reagan administration...

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Casey's vision of the postwar world saw the United States playing business interests in Germany against each other and against Communist and Socialist-led labor unions.26 He welcomed an opportunity to collect intelligence showing Nazi connections to supposedly neutral business circles as a means of influencing these same circles in the postwar world. As a result, Casey launched into SAFEHAVEN with such enthusiasm that he had to be restrained by Washington, in a cable dispatched on 18 January 1945:
...(W)hile SAFEHAVEN Project has certain present and potentially greater future value, no SI personnel which can possibly be used in connection agent penetration Germany...should be used for any SAFEHAVEN purpose. For this project we can be one of many supporting agencies Department State which has assumed control and direction. For agent penetration Germany for strategic information and for proper briefing such agents US Government can look to OSS SI only to accomplish its characteristic mission.27
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...r00/art04.html
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