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View Poll Results: If CCB had passed, would our Credit Rating have been cut?
Yes, it still would have. We're just in too deep. 55 36.18%
No. It would have shown we were serious about getting spending under control. 93 61.18%
I don't care, I want to keep spending like it's 1999. 4 2.63%
Voters: 152. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-06-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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And keep in mind, the Tea Party did not win. Welfare programs for example were not touched. The debt ceiling was raised yet again. And of course any cuts made were going to be targetted at the productive sector and the military.

You can not keep penalizing only the productive sector and expect good outcomes.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:22 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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A third option is not going to be fair to this poll. This is possibly going to be a core election issue next year.

Are people going to say, both parties suck, so I abstain from voting??

Somebody's gotta vote.
That might just choose someone who has always said we need to change our ways...
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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And keep in mind, the Tea Party did not win. Welfare programs for example were not touched. The debt ceiling was raised yet again. And of course any cuts made were going to be targetted at the productive sector and the military.

You can not keep penalizing only the productive sector and expect good outcomes.
The TEA party was an ideological group elected because of the disgust in Washington.

If washington isn't willing to move things along, then the radicals will become more and more prominent.

Don't worry, both parties got the message. Thats why the super committee was formed, bypass the TEA party.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:25 AM
 
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The political know it alls should have listened to the Tea Party. As it turns out, they were the only ones who had it right. They wanted to deal with this situaion right now and not kick it down the road again. The left with their typical FEAR MONGERING called it hostage taking. I call it common sense and found it refreshing.


Years of liberal fiscal policies brought us to this point. Obama's doubling down on the Pelosi/Reid/Dodd/Frank fiscal policies drove us off the cliff. Obama's hateful, angry rhetoric made it impossible to reach a deal.

I am not interested in compromise. I am interested in stopping this insane spending, PERIOD!


What a stain on Obama's legacy! The first POTUS ever to cause the downgrade of America's credit rating. That will ALWAYS be part of his resume now. Well, at least now he has a resume.


Hope & change baby. Hope and change. I guess there was change after all.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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I love the mentality of Americans....must find someone to blame...because it sure can't be ME.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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The political know it alls should have listened to the Tea Party. As it turns out, they were the only ones who had it right. They wanted to deal with this situaion right now and not kick it down the road again. The left with their typical FEAR MONGERING called it hostage taking. I call it common sense and found it refreshing.


Years of liberal fiscal policies brought us to this point. Obama's doubling down on the Pelosi/Reid/Dodd/Frank fiscal policies drove us off the cliff. Obama's hateful, angry rhetoric made it impossible to reach a deal.

I am not interested in compromise. I am interested in stopping this insane spending, PERIOD!


What a stain on Obama's legacy! The first POTUS ever to cause the downgrade of America's credit rating. That will ALWAYS be part of his resume now. Well, at least now he has a resume.


Hope & change baby. Hope and change. I guess there was change after all.
APPLAUSE!!!!

Higher debt is what we got (some comrpomise), it's what's doing us in, it will destroy us.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:42 AM
 
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APPLAUSE!!!!

Higher debt is what we got (some comrpomise), it's what's doing us in, it will destroy us.
"If the US Government was a family, they would be making $58,000 a year, they spend $75,000 a year, & are $327,000 in credit card debt. They are currently proposing BIG spending cuts to reduce their spending to $72,000 a year. These are the actual proportions of the federal budget & debt, reduced to a level that we can understand." - Dave Ramsey


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Old 08-06-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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"If the US Government was a family, they would be making $58,000 a year, they spend $75,000 a year, & are $327,000 in credit card debt. They are currently proposing BIG spending cuts to reduce their spending to $72,000 a year. These are the actual proportions of the federal budget & debt, reduced to a level that we can understand." - Dave Ramsey


If we had cut the spending significantly we could have kept our credit rating.

We showed the world we're incapable, even with "compromise" to rein in spending in any significant way. Plus when all your cuts are on those people who paid into the system, not one cut in welfare programs it indicates you aren't even going to cut in any meaningful way.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:49 AM
 
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The political know it alls should have listened to the Tea Party. As it turns out, they were the only ones who had it right. They wanted to deal with this situaion right now and not kick it down the road again. The left with their typical FEAR MONGERING called it hostage taking. I call it common sense and found it refreshing.


Years of liberal fiscal policies brought us to this point. Obama's doubling down on the Pelosi/Reid/Dodd/Frank fiscal policies drove us off the cliff. Obama's hateful, angry rhetoric made it impossible to reach a deal.

I am not interested in compromise. I am interested in stopping this insane spending, PERIOD!


What a stain on Obama's legacy! The first POTUS ever to cause the downgrade of America's credit rating. That will ALWAYS be part of his resume now. Well, at least now he has a resume.

Hope & change baby. Hope and change. I guess there was change after all.
It's unbelievable what the far right will believe. Clinton gave Bush the biggest surplus in US history to turn it into the biggest deficit. It takes a real idiot to pull that one off, but that's what happens when you give republicans complete control. They spend like lunatics and could care less about the country, just about bankrolling their corporate masters.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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I'll blame both parties equally although anything bad you can say about Bush you can say the same about Obama and probably a little more.
If this doesn't wake people the %^&* up to the fact that we need to break the two party system and need to start looking at libertarian principles as our only means of survival, then the country is hopeless and maybe it does deserve to just fade away. There's a saying by one of the great minds of our times( aww, shucks ) " In the land of morons, the imbecile is king." We need to stop electing imbeciles.
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