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bobtn · 08-20-2011, 04:09 PM

AmaznJOhn:"You've stumbled across the biggest contention about this issue. Who holds the responsibility for these citizens not being well educated. I say the individuals are responsible and should not be rewarded by receiving union-negotiated benefits that compensate them for a value they do not deserve. Certainly the companies they work for are not responsible for their lack of education, nor taxpayers."

The individual is properly 100% responsible.

Happy Cells · 08-21-2011, 03:02 AM

The Union types need to quit the passé "class-warfare" ideology and realize that they are competing labor in a GLOBAL market.
It is truly amazing how they continually price themselves right out of a job.
If they produced OUTSTANDING quality... well the price might be worth it, but they DON'T!
So... the jobs go overseas.

antiunion · 10-11-2011, 07:50 PM

There is a very old saying, don't bite the hand that feeds you.

antiunion · 10-13-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dumbdowndemocrats

Name me a company overseas that can compare to a Harley ? They are all rice burners...

Carolina Boot lasted 4 times as long as a Chinese pair... yes it was worth the added cost.

My 17 inch tires are American made the cheap Korean tires were a joke...

Your right, none can compare with Harley, they are better, you can beat a rice burner all day and they stay together.

no1brownsfan · 10-13-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BentBow

We don't agree on much, but I see common ground here, Greg!
Evidently, we are coming around to the same goal for the USA, because it won't let me rep you. I have to spread it.

Count me in with you and Greg! And Greg... I was able to rep ya!

MTAtech · 10-13-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by no1brownsfan

Count me in with you and Greg! And Greg... I was able to rep ya!

Well, if you are for actions against China, you should call your Congressman, since the House leadership won't even let the Senate bill go to a vote.

plwhit · 10-13-2011, 10:16 AM

Who would want to continue to operate a business where it's workers go on strike for almost 3 months and could do so again sometime in the future?

Wapasha · 10-13-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by summers73

Concessions? Heck no! Cut off your nose to spite your face is the preferred union approach.

American Axle closing last plant here - Business - The Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/business/article526909.ece - broken link)

I'm sure over-regulation and our punitive tax code played a part also.

Huckleberry3911948 · 10-13-2011, 10:24 AM

i wish it were so easy to nail the bad guy. then we could outlaw unions and get our jobs back but the concerted effort by big biz and DC to offshore american jobs marches on, with or without unions.

sanrene · 10-13-2011, 10:25 AM

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But American Axle in recent years went through a wrenching period, marked by an 87-day day strike in early 2008. It ended up closing its Buffalo and Tonawanda operations. Workers criticized the company for shifting more of its operations out of the country -- complaints the UAW repeated this week.

87 days. And the unions wonder why business is flocking to right to work states and overseas, if necessary.

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"Clearly, American Axle CEO Dick Dauch is more concerned with advancing his pay from millionaire to billionaire status at the continued expense of his employees."

Blah, blah, blah. Is this all the unions/dems/Left can come up with to explain how they are driving business off shore?