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Old 08-19-2011, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Concessions? Heck no! Cut off your nose to spite your face is the preferred union approach.

American Axle closing last plant here - Business - The Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/business/article526909.ece - broken link)
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:26 AM
 
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I myself prefer unsustainable business models utilizing inflexible union labor along with the required taxpayer funded subsidies and bailouts.

Profit is the devil.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Concessions? Heck no! Cut off your nose to spite your face is the preferred union approach.

American Axle closing last plant here - Business - The Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/business/article526909.ece - broken link)



Who doesn't get it????


If we had sky high trade tariffs and illegal immigration enforcement, our unions, excessive rules & regulations, would not be frowned upon so greatly right now.


Since we have open borders and free trade... unions, rules & regulations, will keep our citizens unemployed and starving.


One or the other people!!! What's it going to be?
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Who doesn't get it????


If we had sky high trade tariffs, our unions, excessive rules & regulations, would not be frowned upon so greatly right now.


Since we have open borders and free trade, unions, rule & regulations, will keep our citizens unemployed and starving.
Unions support illegal immigration they think it will increase their membership rolls.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I prefer countervailing tariffs to eliminate the price advantage created by low wages, dirty environments and government subsidies. "FREE TRADE" is not free. It costs far too many their living while making far too few ever wealthier.

In the case of this business I would forbid importing any of their goods. They want to build overseas let them sell overseas. See how much money they can make in a $1 per hour economy.

These tariffs should apply to all imported manufactured goods. If a foreign company wants to avoid these tariffs they can manufacture their products here. This seems to be working for several automobile companies so why not the rest?
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:53 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Unions support illegal immigration they think it will increase their membership rolls.



There is no doubt about that.

The cost to do business in the USA with the ability to move and make bigger profits as an importer instead of a manufacturer. What has that left us??


That sucking sound of jobs leaving the USA - Ross Perot
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I prefer countervailing tariffs to eliminate the price advantage created by low wages, dirty environments and government subsidies. "FREE TRADE" is not free. It costs far too many their living while making far too few ever wealthier.

In the case of this business I would forbid importing any of their goods. They want to build overseas let them sell overseas. See how much money they can make in a $1 per hour economy.

The one thing Donald Trump is dead on target about!!!
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Concessions? Heck no! Cut off your nose to spite your face is the preferred union approach.

American Axle closing last plant here - Business - The Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/business/article526909.ece - broken link)
Same thing they said here about Worthington Steel taking over operations at the New Boston plant.Now there are 3 strip malls where the mill used to be the first mall[K-MART] was bettered by the second[WALMART]... the second bettered by the third with a SUPER WALMART weeeoooh!

The state of Ohio made the best steel in the world and now we are what the PRETENDERS sing about malls parking lots Dullsville U.S.A. but we do have a Downtown close to the college ...potential,untapped progress?

Unions higher ups will always have a job the underlings will have to fend for themselves in a sorry service economy that will never pay what they once had.The destruction of our manufacturing and heavy industry is self inflicted far worse than if an enemy has bombed US into the Stoned Age. JMO.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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I prefer countervailing tariffs to eliminate the price advantage created by low wages, dirty environments and government subsidies. "FREE TRADE" is not free. It costs far too many their living while making far too few ever wealthier.

In the case of this business I would forbid importing any of their goods. They want to build overseas let them sell overseas. See how much money they can make in a $1 per hour economy.
Socialists always enjoy deciding who the winners and losers are. In this case the losers would not only be the company executives, but their American stockholders and the American consumer. The Unions have created this environment of cheaper manufacturing costs overseas and they need to lie in the bed they made.

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Old 08-19-2011, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Allowing the "Free Trade" really has been a devastating to the American economy as losing a major war. A steel mill scrapped because Korean steel is cheaper is just a destroyed as if it were bombed by terrorists. We need to wake up to the fact that our trading "partners" are our competitors and NOT our friends. They would be just as happy if we went away commercially so long as we paid for their defense against their enemies. Time to say Fair prices or you pay for your own defense.

We need FAIR Trade, not unfair trade that is robbing us of any semblance of previous prosperity. I would rather the Union workers, along with most of the rest of us, be the winners. The executives, stockholders and bankers have already stolen enough.
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