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Old 09-06-2011, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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If only this lady had the decency to grease the palms of Chicago's elite.
...With corn syrup!
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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...With corn syrup!
Corn syrup is for the serfs. All natural ingredients are reserved for government officials.
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Old 09-06-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Chicago City officials + Ben & Jerry's go on another honeymoon.

If only this lady had the decency to grease the palms of Chicago's elite.
You mean "Chicago City officials + Unilever go on another honeymoon," right?
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You mean "Chicago City officials + Unilever go on another honeymoon," right?
Good point!
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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This is government being manipulated by big business IMO.

If you want to know the background on why corn syrup is in just about every processed food, see "Food, Inc." You may never buy fast food or food packaged in a box again.
As someone that knows Chicago and how it operates very well....it's actually highly unlikely that big business is doing this.

For example, they've kept walmart out of Chicago for a loooooong time and even now they only have minimal presence.

What you are seeing is local business in partnership with the corrupt city government keeping out people to protect their family business, union donors, the mob and other assorted cronies.

Go open up a rival boat taxi business and you will be inspected like crazy and if you pass those then someone might gun you down if you persist.

When there were 10-20 deaths in a deck collapse a decade or more ago the inspector was the 19yo son of a politically powerful guy who skipped to the head of the hiring list for the job. They then claimed the deck was never inspected and had no permits (which disappeared) but the builder had kept their copies.

This gal could be operating a towing business instead of making icecream and they'd hassle her out of business just the same unless her uncle was Dailey etc.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Hey guys - for those of you who are focusing this on Chicago, please give me a break, ok? I read the entire article that OP posted, and while the lead story was about a small entrepeneur who is getting it stuck to her by the cities Dept of Health, the article goes on to cite examples of this same type of thing going on nationwide.

This thread is in P&OC - not Chicago, and the article puts the outrage in the context of a national trend, so maybe you can see why it may not be obvious that this is supposed to be a Chicago topic.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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nice to find some common ground, but I don't see the connection from Monsanto to Obama as much as Monsanto makes sure to grease the palms of whoever is in office. Ya ain't gonna tell me that Monsanto's money stunk too bad for Bush to take now are you? Monsanto has BIG BUCKS - big enough to buy EVERYONE, Democrat AND Republican.
The connection from Monsanto to Obama is that Obama is the current POTUS. The only potential POTUS not in Monsanto's pocket is the only candidate openly warning us about Monsanto and the other Corporate Interests who own our politicians.

One Guess . . .
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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I tried guessing Huntsman and after doing some research I found I was wrong. Please don't keep me in suspense too long...
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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If one bothers to read the underlying article in the Chicago Tribune, the picture becomes clearer:

Regarding the strawberries:

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Swanberg says that the IDPH officer who visited told her that her ice cream probably wouldn’t pass the bacteria tests if she continued to use fresh strawberries. Instead the officer suggested she use "strawberry syrup," Swanberg said.

IDPH spokesperson Melanie Arnold said that it isn’t illegal to use real strawberries but that IDPH “does not encourage it simply because when you try and clean a strawberry to make sure it doesn’t have any bacteria, it kind of deteriorates.
Overall, the issue is a dairy license, which requires the ice cream business to have the product tested once a month for high bacterial levels; requires standardized packaging and labeling; and purchase a pasteurizing machine.

I don't think it is unreasonable government intrusion to try to assure that the public (and children) is protected from bacteria levels in their ice cream.

The theme of this thread is "the government is oppressive" but when reviewing the actual facts it's clear the rules are reasonable for the purpose of protecting public health.

In addition, the thread title is outright false. Nobody is FORCING this business to use less healthy ingredients but the ingredient used must be below a certain bacteria level. Oh heavens, this business owner's liberties and freedom to manufacture bacteria laden ice cream are being trampled!
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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In addition, the thread title is outright false.
Lies stick easier and longer.
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