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Old 09-07-2011, 08:27 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Last month, in Oregon, deer allegedly pooped in a strawberry farm. The strawberries were then sold at roadside stands. The results were an e.coli out break that sickened at leat ten and resulted in the death of an elderly woman from kidney failure.
You DO realise you can simply WASH the strawberries right?

A few years back there was an outbreak where several people died from green onions...green onions that had been approved by the fedgov through their agencies.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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LOL!!!!

The government wants to regulate the bacteria in this woman's ice cream because it's worried about our 'health and safety.' But then they subsidize corn and high fructose corn syrup. They allow twinkies, cheese poofs, and soda to flood the market.

So, government...you are only concerned with the safety of food with regards to BACTERIA? What about all the other reasons food can be bad for you? Oh, no...that's not important. Heart disease, diabetes, and cancer are not NEARLY as horrible as a case of the runs.

If you can call 'regulating food' merely putting the nutritional (or non-nutritional) facts on the label...have this lady put on HER label - "Hey, this is real food. You might could get sick from it because it's not chock-ablock full of preservatives and plastic."
Where your line of reasoning fails is that while the federal government subsidizes corn, and therefore corn syrup, the license and health check requirements are either the City of Chicago or the State of Illinois, that has nothing to do with corn subsidies.

What is the conservative argument here, the State doesn't have the right to monitor food safety or are they arguing that monitoring food safety is a bad idea? Certainly, States have wide latitude of what they can regulate and there certainly is a public interest in doing so.

On can't seriously argue that it's a bad idea to assure that ice cream is bacteria free.

What are the conservatives suggesting, that we shouldn't test milk, meat, vegetables for harmful pesticides, etc. either?

We can see the conservatives coming out of the woodwork who believe that nothing the government does, no matter how sensible, is justified.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Europe
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What percentage of Strawberry syrup in the USA is free from corn syrup?

Should be easy enough for you to find out.
Doesn't matter as long as you get strawberry syrup without corn syrup. You made the claim that she doesn't have an option. You said strawberry syrup is made off corn syrup. Its not true for all. And I don't need to do the homework for you. You were wrong. She has an option to not use corn syrup.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Europe
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What are the conservatives suggesting, that we shouldn't test milk, meat, vegetables for harmful pesticides, etc. either?
I don't get it either. Without testing businesses would sell even more harmful things. Even though I am not sure how that is possible in the USA.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I LOVE this thread....

It is so funny to see the nanny statists posting we MUST have laws keeping us safe from strawberries in strawberry ice cream...
From the news article:
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Swanberg could continue to work without a license, Wilding said, if she used a premade ice cream mix that is usually formulated with stabilizers and other additives — the kind of thing typically used at Dairy Queens, Wilding noted.


Still, Swanberg feels that using strawberry syrup and a premade soft serve mix might not attract the same customers who buy her product made from fresh organic cream blended with local and often organic produce like basil and strawberries she picks herself.


The department could not confirm the $40,000 price tag on a pasteurizing machine. But it did confirm that, even if she uses pasteurized [COLOR=green ! important][COLOR=green ! important]milk[/color][/color] and boils all of her ingredients together, she would then need to pasteurize it in this special machine again.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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I don't get it either. Without testing businesses would sell even more harmful things. Even though I am not sure how that is possible in the USA.
Nanny statists...they are hilarious.

Keep up the good work posting drivel,it only makes your type look worse.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I LOVE this thread....

It is so funny to see the nanny statists posting we MUST have laws keeping us safe from strawberries in strawberry ice cream...
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So, food safety is the "nanny state?"

I think you would feel quite differently if one of your children was one of the children that died from eating bad meat at McDonalds a few years ago. Even with the testing, some bad meat gets through. Without testing, deaths would be common.

What possible rational reason could anyone have for not wanting safe food?
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Nanny statists...they are hilarious.

Keep up the good work posting drivel,it only makes your type look worse.
Actually, you look really bad because you cannot admit that you were wrong. And btw, I was simply pointing out that the blog was not truely representing what the article said.
And yes, I like when business that sells food is being monitored. And ice cream is unhealthy no matter what. So your point above is irrelevant. Whether its fresh or not, ice cream is not healthy.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:52 AM
 
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So, food safety "nanny state?"

I think you would feel quite differently if one of your children was one of the children that died from eating bad meat at McDonalds a few years ago. Even with the testing, some bad meat gets through. Without testing, deaths would be common.

What possible rational reason could anyone have for not wanting safe food?
Didn't that 'bad meat' go through the fedgov wringer?

LOL...your justification for food safety laws is that the food safety laws fail and people die...and so as the laws fail,not having the laws would be bad.




Why are raw oysters okay to eat with just a warning?
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Europe
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So, food safety is the "nanny state?"

I think you would feel quite differently if one of your children was one of the children that died from eating bad meat at McDonalds a few years ago. Even with the testing, some bad meat gets through. Without testing, deaths would be common.

What possible rational reason could anyone have for not wanting safe food?
Its a new catch phrase. The same people don't mind useless spendings on wars but they don't want safety regulations.
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