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Old 09-23-2011, 06:41 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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High time a President moved to weaken this law! The article slants it as being Bush' fault, calling it a "Bush-Era education law" but really it was a bi-partisan screw up that got dumped on the states by BOTH parties.

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Under the plan Obama was to outline Friday, states would be allowed to ask the Education Department to be exempted from some of the law's requirements if they meet certain conditions. That includes enacting standards to prepare students for college and careers and setting evaluation standards for teachers and principals.
Obama rolling back Bush-era education law - Yahoo! News
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Yes- teachers shouldn't be held accountable. That certainly makes sense. BTW: are these union employees?
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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sure, let's opt out of actualy teaching kids......

NCLB is NEEDED because kids are being promoted without being able to perform.

Obama should be INCREASING and STRENGTHENING NCLB ....but liberals dont care about kids..only their union buddys
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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High time a President moved to weaken this law! The article slants it as being Bush' fault, calling it a "Bush-Era education law" but really it was a bi-partisan screw up that got dumped on the states by BOTH parties.


Obama rolling back Bush-era education law - Yahoo! News

How do you "opt out" if there are still Federal strings attached? This is a lie.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Yes- teachers shouldn't be held accountable. That certainly makes sense. BTW: are these union employees?
You might consider actually reading the article before making a knee-jerk statement like that.

Accountability remains.

In case anyone is interested in a serious discussion and wants information, here is what I think is a balanced article.

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The effectiveness of No Child Left Behind has been brought into question. On one hand it is a noble effort by President Bush to elevate America's education, his actions are understandable if not practical. The U.S. ranks near the bottom of industrialized nations as far as educational equality, and something has to be done about it (Mathis 1). However, NCLB is not the answer. Overwhelming evidence and opposition to the act has provided evidence that the plan is neither effective nor feasible. Costs for implementation and sustaining of the act overwhelm assigned government funds. Its focus on accountability has led to a frenzy of student movement, resulting in overcrowding, inferior curriculum, demoralized faculty, and system based on competition instead of cooperation. The effects of NCLB have left states slashing already starved budgets, forcing them to meet impossible demands with fewer funds.
NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND - Hohonu

And here is a collection of information on what has gone wrong with NCLB and why it has been ineffective.
Rethinking Schools Online

Gee I'm surprised at what appears to be harsh knee-jerk criticism from the conservative quarter. My home state wanted to ban the use of NCLB funds because it was in violation of the state's constitution. So you guys aren't for state's rights I take it?
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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How do you "opt out" if there are still Federal strings attached? This is a lie.
Federal strings is about letting states choose the best possible way each of them believes they can accomplish. It is how federal government should work.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Great, now let states opt out of Obamacare.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:10 AM
 
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Federal strings is about letting states choose the best possible way each of them believes they can accomplish. It is how federal government should work.
Double speak 101
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:20 AM
 
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Fairness dictates that I have to agree with Obama on this one. It was a well-intentioned, but dumb law.
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Old 09-23-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Double speak 101
One track minds usually have difficulty differentiating, or they choose to ignore what doesn't bode well with their agenda.
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