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Old 10-16-2011, 05:19 PM
 
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As a member of the middle class I'm being asked to provide both of them with support (food stamps on one hand and bailouts for banks deemed too big to fail) and I'm sick of it.

Will you join me in supporting the right of all Americans to buy homes they can afford? Then the $9 worker could escape rent slavery and thereby afford to live on that wage.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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Will you join me in supporting the right of all Americans to buy homes they can afford? Then the $9 worker could escape rent slavery and thereby afford to live on that wage.
No one anywhere is denying people the right to buy homes they can afford.

It's the buying of homes that thay cannot afford that is the problem.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: The Twilight Zone
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I did the right thing, I stayed in school, I got an education, I graduated in the top 5 percent of my class.

I have never made $20K in any year, nor have I ever made as much as $9 per hour.
Sounds like you are not good at what you are trying to do, therefore no one wants to pay you for your services.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: The Twilight Zone
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Will you join me in supporting the right of all Americans to buy homes they can afford? Then the $9 worker could escape rent slavery and thereby afford to live on that wage.
All Americans do have the right to buy homes they can afford and $9.00/hr can indeed buy you a house. It is up to YOU to buy that house and not the one that requires $18.00/hr.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:26 PM
 
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if people could get past the fact that there will always be a poor, middle, and upper in class under a capitalist system, then this wouldn't be such a huge debate.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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I did the right thing, I stayed in school, I got an education, I graduated in the top 5 percent of my class.

I have never made $20K in any year, nor have I ever made as much as $9 per hour.
I'll bet you didn't major in engineering, medicine, or nursing or teaching.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Between Seattle and Portland
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I simply pointed out that most of us make higher wages. Why? Because we do the right thing, stay in school and get an education. Hardly an unreasonable requirement. That's why most of aren't poor.
Sweeping generalization that does not address supply and demand in this recession, e.g. California's college graduate situation:

The Golden State is a little less golden these days, thanks to the recession. And economists at California Lutheran University Center for Economic Research and Forecasting have the proof.

According to center director Bill Watkins, "California is fast becoming a post-industrial hell."


Watkins pointed out some key statistics.


-California's unemployment rate remains at a high 12 percent, higher than the national average, and climbing.


...


-And although California does a good job educating 150,000 students per year handing out new college degrees, only about 50,000 jobs are being created for those graduates.


California becoming post-industrial hell - U.s. - Catholic Online

I'm sure the 100,000 new college graduates flooding the employment market each year "did the right thing" by staying in school and getting an education.

Jeez...
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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How very true and I wonder how many actually realize that.
The middle class is supporting those above and those below them and still have to support themselves.

Then you should support the right of all Americans to buy homes they can afford and thereby escape rent slavery which hinders saving and investment.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The game is crap.

If I made 9 bucks an hour, I'd have like 20 roommates and/or live with family, my rent would be miniscule, and I'd be going to school as much as I could, too. I sure as hell wouldn't have kids, I'd share and bum rides...

Oh, wait...I have done that...
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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Also, where *I* live, you can get an apartment for $300 a month, so that $700+ per month figure is way out of line too.

20yrsinBranson

$300 a month for an apartment sounds unrealistic. I can't even find a ROOM for $300 a month.
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