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If your argument were correct,then no one could be a US citizenship at birth unless their parents were Chinese. It's not Wong that doesn't apply, it's your idiotic argument that doesn't apply.
Not true.
Anyone born in the U.S. who fits the criteria established in the Civil Rights Act of 1866, to wit: "all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States"
...or the 14th Amendment including the 'subject to the jurisdiction' requirement as Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Trumbull defined it, to wit: "The provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."
...is a U.S. citizen at birth.
Obama doesn't qualify as admittedly, he was subject to the British Nationality Act of 1948 at birth via his non-citizen father.
All the Ark case did was enable a route to citizenship at birth for those born and raised in the U.S. to Chinese subject parents who couldn't naturalize as U.S. citizens by law or treaty but were permanently domiciled in the U.S. Reading any more than that into the Ark decision is a mistake.
Who is a U.S. citizen at birth? The Civil Rights Act of 1866, the 14th Amendment, and Senate Judiciary Comittee Chairman Trumbull state such very specifically.
All those "temporary stays" added up to FIVE YEARS, which altogether isn't temporary at all. Nope, NOT TEMPORARY at all. More akin to "permanent" when applying the legal meaning of "permanent domicile".
No. Obama's father's permanent domicile was Kenya based on his passport, student visa, and any temporary stay extensions that applied after his student visa expired.
We have signed legal forms explicitly stating that Obama's father was only a TEMPORARY resident of the U.S.
TEMPORARY is not 'permanent' no matter how much you whine and complain.
No. Obama's father's permanent domicile was Kenya based on his passport, student visa, and any temporary stay extensions that applied after his student visa expired.
We have signed legal forms explicitly stating that Obama's father was only a TEMPORARY resident of the U.S.
TEMPORARY is not 'permanent' no matter how much you whine and complain.
I'd be willing to bet that the USPS was delivering his mail to a US address. And doing so for FIVE YEARS.
You can pose this tenuous argument based on bureaucratic language all you want.
Legally, and actually, Obama's father resided in the United States for FIVE LONG YEARS.
And it really doesn't matter.
Because President Obama was born in Hawaii, and he was subject---wait for it---to US jurisdiction, not to British jurisdiction. He was an American citizen first and foremost. He may have been entitled to claim British citizenship, but he never did. He was always a natural-born American citizen. And he grew up to become President. And for some reason, this really, really, really irks you. Too bad, so sad.
I'd be willing to bet that the USPS was delivering his mail to a US address. And doing so for FIVE YEARS.
You can pose this tenuous argument based on bureaucratic language all you want.
Legally, and actually, Obama's father resided in the United States for FIVE LONG YEARS.
And it really doesn't matter.
Because President Obama was born in Hawaii, and he was subject---wait for it---to US jurisdiction, not to British jurisdiction. He was an American citizen first and foremost. He may have been entitled to claim British citizenship, but he never did. He was always a natural-born American citizen. And he grew up to become President. And for some reason, this really, really, really irks you. Too bad, so sad.
Only a person BORN to British citizenship can be entitled to British citizenship.
At the time of his birth, he was as much British as he was American.
"Time at birth" predominates "maturity" as far as U.S. presidential qualifications are concerned, as there is always the worry of recidivism as contemplated by the founders.
No. Obama's father's permanent domicile was Kenya based on his passport, student visa, and any temporary stay extensions that applied after his student visa expired.
We have signed legal forms explicitly stating that Obama's father was only a TEMPORARY resident of the U.S.
TEMPORARY is not 'permanent' no matter how much you whine and complain.
Obama Senior would never have been allowed to become a naturalized U.S. citizen as obstacled by the "good character" requirement excluding men of multiple extrajudicial marriages.
Only a person BORN to British citizenship can be entitled to British citizenship.
At the time of his birth, he was as much British as he was American.
"Time at birth" predominates "maturity" as far as U.S. presidential qualifications are concerned, as there is always the worry of recidivism as contemplated by the founders.
At the time of his birth, he was just as entitled to claim a British citizenship as he was entitled to claim an American citizenship. He never claimed the British citizenship. He did claim the American citizenship.
At the time of his birth, he was just as entitled to claim a British citizenship as he was entitled to claim an American citizenship. He never claimed the British citizenship. He did claim the American citizenship.
There is no ex post facto citizen purity where U.S. presidential qualifications are concerned.
Obama Senior would never have been allowed to become a naturalized U.S. citizen as obstacled by the "good character" requirement excluding men of multiple extrajudicial marriages.
The only people concerned with citizen purity are bigots.
A citizen is a citizen in this country.
Maybe all men are born equal, but not all are constitutional qualified to be President.
Equals are always equal, even Charlie Manson is constitutionally qualified to be President, but not simply because he might be equal.
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