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Old 11-03-2011, 09:36 AM
 
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I don't think anybody feared these people trespassing. You as a citizen are expected to follow certain laws. You as a reasonable citizen should provide your name and or identification if your not following certain laws. Anarchy is not freedom no matter how much you want it to be.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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I am amused that the same conservatives the cry about lost freedom also support the "authorites" when a citizen refuses to cooperate. The conservatives do not care about freedom they only care about control over anyone they fear.
Hey!

Conservatives ALWAYS carry their papers.

And, PROUDLY!

And flags, too!
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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Good point. I told my friend along the same lines when he was howling about these protestor folks. I told him to go camp out at the park a few block from our house and see how long till the cops come tell him to leave. Hell you gotta pay to camp out at the lake. They may have thought she was a hooker and he a john for all we know and when they asked she went ballistic. Who knows. Common sense prevails until a howler wants to raise a stink.
Yes, and if this woman was raped by some stranger or some john who failed to pay her for her services that night, she'd be suing and complaining that the cops didn't protect her well enough.

When the cops don't pay attention and let whoever take over the parks and do whatever they please, people complain they're not doing their jobs and that innocent people are getting mugged, raped, and killed.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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Hey!

Conservatives ALWAYS carry their papers.

And, PROUDLY!

And flags, too!
I don't know about you but I always carry my ID with me. What this has to do with conservatives I don't know. It's called common sense in my book. I guess you don't have any.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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No they don't. If they want to detain you, they will find a reason that you can't fight. Deal with it and obey the damn laws. Besides, it's lawful to detain someone for up to 48 hours without being charged.

Just because it's lawful doesn't make it right.

It's lawful for a cop to give you a ticket for driving 60.1 MPH in a 60 MPH zone... doesn't make it right.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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"Papers, please."

Freedom is generally lost in little steps. This is a big step.

Correct. It's amazing how many characteristics of Nazi Germany we have allowed to become accepted practice in this country. Our government is way too powerful... and power corrupts.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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I don't know about you but I always carry my ID with me. What this has to do with conservatives I don't know. It's called common sense in my book. I guess you don't have any.
Beware a Beach Arrest!
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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From the NYT 1991:


Tresspass is a bit more than misbehaving. And failure to idendify is not the same as not having an ID.
They both share the similarity of Constitutional protection against unreasonable searches.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I am amused that the same conservatives the cry about lost freedom also support the "authorites" when a citizen refuses to cooperate. The conservatives do not care about freedom they only care about control over anyone they fear.

I am amused that the same liberals that cry about lost freedom also support the "authorites" when a citizen refuses to cooperate. The liberals do not care about freedom they only care about control over anyone they fear.

See. It works both ways. It used to be that liberals supported freedom. That is no longer true.
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Just because it's lawful doesn't make it right.

It's lawful for a cop to give you a ticket for driving 60.1 MPH in a 60 MPH zone... doesn't make it right.
What are you talking about? You break the damn law you pay the price. What's so damn hard to understand this? What's right is you obeying the law, what's also right is you pay the price for breaking the law. You breaking the law is NOT right. What planet do you come from?
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