Court rules Texas may enforce pre-abortion sonogram law

[jazzarama]

Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok

Appeals court: Texas may enforce abortion law | khou.com Houston



Note that they did not rule the law constitutional. Instead, they're simply saying it can be enforced while it's being challenged.

I don't want this to turn into another general abortion thread and hope that discussion is limited to this ruling, the laws in question, and similar laws or proposals in other states.

The constitutional challenges against the law failed on every count. That's why the court lifted the injunction. There'll be more challenges, but as of now, the law is deemed constitutional.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by 60sfemi

Every single solitary right wing, tea party, "christian" that ever comes in front of a microphone. Not to mention the right wing pundit kings. They want to defund planned parenthood, contraception is against the Catholic and Mormom teachings (ask the Pope), or Michele Bauchman or John Huntsman. They tried getting Romney to admit it, but he's been trying very hard to sidestep it when asked directly. they are covering the contraception issue at the moment by using abortion as "the" issue, but contraception is also right there side by side.

The Mormon church is not opposed to birth control.

LDS Church views on birth control

It is the privilege of married couples who are able to bear children to provide mortal bodies for the spirit children of God, whom they are then responsible to nurture and rear. The decision as to how many chldren to have and when to have them is extremely intimate and private and should be left between the couple and the Lord. Church members should not judge one another in this matter.

Married couples also should understand that sexual relations within marriage are divinely approved not only for the purpose of procreation, but also as a means of expressing love and strengthening emotional and spiritual bonds between husband and wife." (1998 Church Handbook of Instructions)

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by 60sfemi

YES, YES YES, we think this could happen. This DID HAPPEN, over and over and over again. Most often to poor women.....of course. The middle class or richer white girls got their abortions under the table by their own personal physician that were paid cash to get those teenagers free from their unwanted pregnancy before the neighbors saw it. The rest were sent to "homes" and returned after a supposed visit to their aunts house for a few months.

True.
People have a whitewashed vision of the recent past, assuming everyone just had their kids or weren't having sex. I guess it's easy to fantasize about things you don't know about.

I just finished a book about a US business that started up in 1900's and continues to this day. While to story of success was fascinating it was just as interesting to read about the people involved, the boys, girls, men, woman who made things happen. They were not special in their time, just average Americans, who also happened to be drunks, drug addicts, having casual sex, underage sex, out of wedlock children, multiple abortions, homosexuals, etc. This was way way before "the good old days" we like to call the 50's. Of note to me were that in the earlier times abortions were done by Dr's legally, later on when the political climate shifted, it went underground for awhile only to pop back again. In other words: NOTHING HAS CHANGED. What was done in the past is doomed to be done again, including back alley coat hanger abortions.