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Old 01-30-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Allowing peple to keep their money, and demanding money from someone else is the exact opposite of one another
Doesn't matter if they're the exact opposite b/c that's not the point of this thread. See your own words:

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Wrong, people can disagree without dividing taking place. Its when you use one AGAINST the other that you are dividing. You dont need to take wealth from the 1% to grow wealth for the other 99%, but thats what this president believes. Its so utterly ridiculous and false that I wonder how many people could vote for this stupidity.
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You cant be serious? Did you even listen to the state of the union address where Obama blamed the 1% for the deficits, and government not having enough, or their greed.
Your point is that Obama tried to divide this country by blaming the 1%'s greed for the US govt's deficit & not having enough.

So how is that any different than all the Republicans doing the exact same thing w/ people on welfare?
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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And just what is this "reality" we should all approve of Eddie ?
Look at Obama's record. Look at his campaign promises. Explain how a Democrat who is not willing to work w/ the other side shifts all his policies to the Right?
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:39 PM
 
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Doesn't matter if they're the exact opposite b/c that's not the point of this thread. See your own words:

Your point is that Obama tried to divide this country by blaming the 1%'s greed for the US govt's deficit & not having enough.

So how is that any different than all the Republicans doing the exact same thing w/ people on welfare?
You cant take money from people who dont have any
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Look at Obama's record. Look at his campaign promises. Explain how a Democrat who is not willing to work w/ the other side shifts all his policies to the Right?
He caved, that's why. He doesn't stand his ground and actually USE that veto pen. No spine and too big of an ego to take a chance on defeat while standing on principal.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Doesn't matter if they're the exact opposite b/c that's not the point of this thread. See your own words:

Your point is that Obama tried to divide this country by blaming the 1%'s greed for the US govt's deficit & not having enough.

So how is that any different than all the Republicans doing the exact same thing w/ people on welfare?
Trying to reason with wingnuts is like herding chickens. Chickens are NOT very bright.

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Old 01-30-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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You cant take money from people who dont have any
Who cares if you can't take money from them. Republicans blame the poor for our deficit, want to hit them in the wallet, and sell the idea by saying it'll leave the gov't & everyone else in a better position.

How is that different than the what the so-called "divider" Obama is doing?

And then when you consider how many people that would be affected by the Right's attack on the poor vs how many people would be affected by Left's attack on the 1%, it's not even comparable which one is actually "class warfare."
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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So, according to your one-sided logic, Obama's winning in 2008 wasn't the American people sending a message but the GOP winning in 2010 was:
McConnell's words aren't polarizing?

As a CEO, you tell people what to do. If they don't like it, you tell them to hit the street. That's not what a President does. He can direct the House and Senate.
No, your VP's and senior managers tell people what to do. I gave direction to senior management.

Your average CEO is just another politician.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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He caved, that's why. He doesn't stand his ground and actually USE that veto pen. No spine and too big of an ego to take a chance on defeat while standing on principal.
So now cooperating and negotiating w/ your opponents is caving? A second ago, when you were sure he was standing his ground at the cost of uniting the country, he was being a divider...
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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You cant take money from people who dont have any
See, just what I was saying above, the wealthy have accumulated massive stockpiles of wealth, but YOU see them as penniless. Some people are beyond fixing.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Look at Obama's record. Look at his campaign promises. Explain how a Democrat who is not willing to work w/ the other side shifts all his policies to the Right?
Exactly. I have several coworkers in Europe, where Obama is considered a center-right politician.
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