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the Air Force was asleep on 9/11?? man, I know cowards wouldn't say something like that surrounded by a bunch of sleeping Air Force Airmen... that was way too low of a blow, even for a conspiracy theorist member of the 25% club..
drug laced pop and motor oil? come on now.. I've been to DC several times and I don't need a finger to count the number of times I saw either of those at any of the tourist traps.. that was obviously vandalism and to dismiss it is basically the way of the left..
just like it is the way of the right to dismiss mass murder of foreign citizens...?
I just don't buy it as deliberate vandalism. It looks random, sprayed, dripped, not even well-placed. Most of the stains are on the curb. It's hardly visible on the photos. If someone had used a claw hammer and scratched away at some names, then, yes, I'd be more supportive. Really, oil stains are THIS much of a problem? This is way overblown.
The most disturbing thing here is that people are saying the people/person who did it is a coward, deserves to punished, is a terrorist because it was done at night, is a leftist, etc. It could be a veteran himself, angry at something...we'll never know! No one was hurt. The 'damage' can be repaired. Instead of giving this invented boogeyman his 15 minutes, why not ignore it and devote energy to far more important issues? All this irrational finger-pointing is ultimately UNpatriotic and divisive. In fact, it's far more damaging than a little oil stain.
I did a google search to see more stories on this.Came up with a few,seems in different cities have their own memorials and defacing has happened a few times.
It's a misguided soul that does this.I'm not against people protesting,whether I agree or not about what they are protesting against but doing this is ignorance, and disrespect not toward government policy but toward American people in general.
My hometown of Rosedale, Queens had its Vietnam Veteran Memorial attacked by Anti-War Protesters. In May 1970, while serving in my peasant-farming village of Phu Da/Duc Duc, I received copies of the below pictures.
(The pictures and their related articles were taken from the Long Island Press.) Destruction
The Rosedale Vietnam Veteran Memorial was dedicated on
Memorial Day 1968. The*Spirit*Lives*On
"After several attempts, I was able to contact SGT Booker
of the National Park Service (NPS), to check on the facts
about the defacement of the Vietnam Wall last weekend. He
explained it was a cleaning accident by a Park Ranger and
NOT a defacement as was originally reported by the Vietnam Veterans of American (VVA). The NPS is regarding this as an accident instead of an act of vandalism or terrorism.
Our National Commander Patriot Henry Cook III has the
direct phone numbers for SGT Booker of the NPS, and can
verify these facts with him directly. A copy of this
correction is also being sent the VVA for their follow up
and verification. My apology for the error, as sometimes
it is not always possible to reach the NPS immediately.
Any future report of attempted or actual vandalism will
be verified with the NPS in advance, even if that means a
significant delay in reporting the incident."
OK, that all looks simple and fair enough. National Park Service tends to be pretty much stand up good guys.
I guess a good fire drill for you all. Even if a Chinese fire drill.
"After several attempts, I was able to contact SGT Booker
of the National Park Service (NPS), to check on the facts
about the defacement of the Vietnam Wall last weekend. He
explained it was a cleaning accident by a Park Ranger and
NOT a defacement as was originally reported by the Vietnam Veterans of American (VVA). The NPS is regarding this as an accident instead of an act of vandalism or terrorism.
Our National Commander Patriot Henry Cook III has the
direct phone numbers for SGT Booker of the NPS, and can
verify these facts with him directly. A copy of this
correction is also being sent the VVA for their follow up
and verification. My apology for the error, as sometimes
it is not always possible to reach the NPS immediately.
Any future report of attempted or actual vandalism will
be verified with the NPS in advance, even if that means a
significant delay in reporting the incident."
OK, that all looks simple and fair enough. National Park Service tends to be pretty much stand up good guys.
I guess a good fire drill for you all. Even if a Chinese fire drill.
But a serious question PCM?
Why such the rush to seek victim status?
How does that mix with the "Proud" part?
Phillip, unless you are a Vietnam veteran, you do not understand the depth of resentment that is felt at the way that many of us have been slandered and dishonored by the popular media and its highly effective propaganda campaign against us. Think of the popular image of the Vietnam combat vet: Rambo, My Lai, napalm, burning children, destroying villages to save them, Kerry's testimony re Winter Soldier, and all the rest of it. The public has had these things seared into its consciousness to the exclusion of everything else to do with that sorry war in that sorry, sorry place.
Yet for many of us, our personal experience was very different. Providing medical care for remote villages, inoculating childen against smallpox, polio, and other diseases, providing free corrective surgery for cleft palates and profound orthopedic malformities, developing pure water systems for villages and districts, protecting schools and teachers from retribution by the communists, feeling the tragedy of a people beseiged on all sides by a remorseless and brutal enemy, and fighting and dying honorably in the defense of what we believed to be a fragile but hopeful democratic South Vietnam...
Regardless of one's opinion's of the American involvment in Vietnam, the mendacious description of our veterans as brutal murderers and destroyers is unconscionable. You need only see what are the journalistic "highlights" of the Iraq conflict (Abu Ghraib, Fallujah, etc.) to predict with numbing certainty what Hollywood and the popular press will do to the returning vets from Iraq. I do not envy them -- they have a whole life to be exposed to the lies and distortions that will surely follow -- the kind that we Vietnam vets have had to endure.
So -- an over-reaction to the Wall's defacement? Probably. The Gathering of Eagles -- an over-the-hill bunch of gray-haired inarticulate old men? Of course. But I would like to remind you that you may be -- or may have been -- guilty of over-reactions at some time in your life, right? And there is no doubt whatsoever that you will someday be gray-haired and over-the-hill, though perhaps not inarticulate.
What you will hopefully not share with these veterans is the experience of seeing the sacrifices that you have made for your country in an unpopular cause ridiculed, slandered, and lied about -- and your own character disfigured and blackened -- as a way for others to gain revenge on political leaders who are long gone.
If you are a Vietnam veteran yourself, I hope you can feel some agreement for what I have said. If you are not, I hope you can find some compassion for this group of old men who gave their best for their country, often in the face of a torrent of unjust and unfair personal criticism.
When is the OP going to add a page about Duke Cunningham, former U.S. military man, to his web site?
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