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Old 04-11-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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Calling him a "scapegoat" would seem to presuppose that he is innocent of committing any crime.

Presumed innocent until proven guilty...

 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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Obama may get black voters enthusiastic to vote in November, but will lose white votes in greater numbers than black votes gained.



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Exactly, and he will use it to his political advantage whether Zimmerman is arrested or not. There are votes to be tallied, and he knows it.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If Zimmerman is charged with murder in Florida, Obama will quietly lose white votes across America.

Zimmerman is becoming a scapegoat for black rage.

I'm calling your bluff.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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If Zimmerman is charged with murder in Florida, Obama will quietly lose white votes across America.

Zimmerman is becoming a scapegoat for black rage.
Is this a joke? Seriously. Zimmerman pursued and killed a man. Zimmerman needs to answer to this and the facts need to be considered. That is how the American Justice system works. Let a jury of his peers decide.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Bideshi View Post
Presumed innocent until proven guilty...
And rightly so. That doesn't change the fact that presuming innocence doesn't mean he actually IS innocent. That's why there's an investigation going on right now, yes?

My point was that calling him a "scapegoat" implies that he IS innocent, which I think is an unjustified presumption at this point.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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Please tell us why? How will prosecuting an overzealous fool that killed an unarmed black kid cost President Obama votes?
I doubt it will, but I can see where it could. If it turns into a national show trial and Obama doesn't stay out of it then he could be hurt when it's proven the liberal lynch mobs were railroading an innocent man to promote racist rhetoric.

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Are you saying that America wants to have an open season on black kids in the wrong place even though they live there? I can only hope we are a lot better than that.
Yeah, sure, that's exactly what he's saying. Any reasonable person will read the statement "Obama will be hurt by the Zimmerman case" to be exactly equivalent to "I want to declare it legal to shoot black people on sight".

Typical liberal intellectual dishonesty on display.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Obama is losing support from white working class men, but it has nothing to do with this case. It has to do with his failure to jumpstart the economy as promised.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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You surely can not support the arrest of someone based on what a mob wants

No. The question is WHAT BENEFIT could come from NOT arresting him? Why would the Sanford justice system PURPOSELY bring a mob down on their city?
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I don't doubt that Zimmerman is being made a scapegoat but at the same time, I think it will have zero effect on Obama's political ambitions...
Yes, Zimmerman was in grave danger when the pistol packer pursued an unarmed teenager who was simply walking down the street.
 
Old 04-11-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: In my view finder.....
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If Zimmerman is charged with murder in Florida, Obama will quietly lose white votes across America.

Zimmerman is becoming a scapegoat for black rage.
Your remarks are stupid at best.

One thing about whites are, they don't need to do anything "quietly".

Your remarks also say that whites cannot think unless it's a "black and white" situation. That's an insult to whites.
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