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Old 04-17-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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I hope Mitt Romney is elected and abolishes HUD. Section 8 is an awful program and needs to be dismantled. Nice areas are turning into slums because of Section 8 residents not to mention crime and school quality deteriorates.
I 100% agree! Put those lazy bastards out on the streets! Pack them in, four or five families to a house! Let them live in broken down RVs and tents on the streets!
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:50 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I 100% agree! Put those lazy bastards out on the streets! Pack them in, four or five families to a house! Let them live in broken down RVs and tents on the streets!
Please tell me why it is the taxpayers responsibility to support them?

Would it be okay if I moved into your house and asked you to pay all my bills?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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Please tell me why it is the taxpayers responsibility to support them?

Would it be okay if I moved into your house and asked you to pay all my bills?
Because it's the Christian thing to do?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Because it's the Christian thing to do?
So let the churches deal with it.

So it is Christian to take money from the middle class and the wealthy to give it to the poor? Is that how it works?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:56 PM
 
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Thanks for showing your inner self, now everyone knows who and what you are.
Yes, a proud "I stand on my own two feet and not on your back", kinda guy.

Thanks for the kudo's (even though you probably thought it was otherwise).
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:56 PM
 
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What's funny is that there are countless immigrant families that do "packed" homes and they save their $$$$ for investment in businesses.

If folks are forced to live crowded with loved ones, the birth rates and other neg. pathologies will stopped due to peer pressure.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I doubt Romney would end HUD. He has no pair big enough. Romney saying he's going to cut departments is like Gingrich pledging to America in his "contract" that the DOE will be cut. Not gonna happen
You are right plus too many of his cronies are making alot of money off of those programs
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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What's funny is that there are countless immigrant families that do "packed" homes and they save their $$$$ for investment in businesses.

If folks are forced to live crowded with loved ones, the birth rates and other neg. pathologies will stopped due to peer pressure.

You are looking at culture and necessity. If you came from a country were living in a small home with an extended family, doing it here with a bigger place to live would be a luxury. Now americans are used to living in relative space for individuals and having someone that is living in a mansion or even in a larger house forcing them to live in cramped conditions will surely start a riot.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Please tell me why it is the taxpayers responsibility to support them?

Would it be okay if I moved into your house and asked you to pay all my bills?

Is it ok for me to pay taxes so that you can pollut my water and air in order to make more money?
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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So let the churches deal with it.

So it is Christian to take money from the middle class and the wealthy to give it to the poor? Is that how it works?
Many Churches do deal with it already. But it's obviously not enough.

But I still ask the question, what are "we" going to do with all the people on Section 8, who suddenly don't have a place to live? I'm certainly not saying there are no abuses in the system, but I'm sure that the program (like all of the Evil Welfare Programs,) helps more people then those who abuse it.

In this very thread people are complaining about over crowded schools and crime rates around Section 8 areas, what do they really thing will happen when thousands of people are suddenly left homeless? No... these people are not going to go off in a corner and die behind a dumpster.

The Universal Truth of Humanity is that we'll do anything to survive, and to keep our children alive. Crime rates WILL increase as people who already have a hard time making ends meet suddenly find that they need even more money to keep that roof over their head. Or they will spiral into despair, turning to drugs and alcohol to make themselves feel better.

This is going to result in the need for more police, more prisons, more children in Foster Care, and more taxes in the long run. Fix the Section 8 and all Welfare programs, I 100% agree with that. But realize that eliminating them without any sort of safety net is simply going to increase the problem.

I don't care what your politics are, but the continued short-sightedness of many people in this forum specifically is frustrating beyond all reason.
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