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Old 04-17-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I can only speak of my personal experience, so here's what I have. I've been in my house for 4 years. The first year I was there, I had no problems. It was a nice neighborhood, homes were only about 4 years old at that time. About a year after we moved in, my city made a deal with the city of Oakland to take a bunch of their section 8 housing to fill the empty houses in our city. Since then: My tailgate has been stolen off my truck. Dents in my truck from kids throwing rocks at it. Trash in my yard and sidewalk daily. My son was beat up by 3 kids at the park. 3 houses down became a pot "grow house", someone was shot in the house over it. Neighbor 2 houses down was stabbed in the face after a fight were 50-60 people were fighting in the street, complete with guns and knives. A bloody sweatshirt from the incident was found on my front lawn. Kids from one of those families were playing in the back of a pick up that didn't belong to them, when the lady asked through her window for them to get out of her truck, one of the men told her to watch her mouth or he'd drag her out of her house and beat her ass. Kids, anywhere from 10 on up, roaming the neighborhood and at the park until 2/3 in the morning constantly. Call the cops, they don't even show up. Constant scenes with yelling and screaming late at night. 4 families that where there when I first moved in moved out because of this crap (and yes, I talked to them and they told me why they were moving).

I'm moving at the end of next month.

So to those of you defending section 8, I understand it's purpose and know it's a complicated issue. But what is your advise to people like me? I have the option to move, but many who are upside down in their mortgage do not.
Liberals don't care about working people they would say tough s**t.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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I can only speak of my personal experience, so here's what I have. I've been in my house for 4 years. The first year I was there, I had no problems. It was a nice neighborhood, homes were only about 4 years old at that time. About a year after we moved in, my city made a deal with the city of Oakland to take a bunch of their section 8 housing to fill the empty houses in our city. Since then: My tailgate has been stolen off my truck. Dents in my truck from kids throwing rocks at it. Trash in my yard and sidewalk daily. My son was beat up by 3 kids at the park. 3 houses down became a pot "grow house", someone was shot in the house over it. Neighbor 2 houses down was stabbed in the face after a fight were 50-60 people were fighting in the street, complete with guns and knives. A bloody sweatshirt from the incident was found on my front lawn. Kids from one of those families were playing in the back of a pick up that didn't belong to them, when the lady asked through her window for them to get out of her truck, one of the men told her to watch her mouth or he'd drag her out of her house and beat her ass. Kids, anywhere from 10 on up, roaming the neighborhood and at the park until 2/3 in the morning constantly. Call the cops, they don't even show up. Constant scenes with yelling and screaming late at night. 4 families that where there when I first moved in moved out because of this crap (and yes, I talked to them and they told me why they were moving).

I'm moving at the end of next month.

So to those of you defending section 8, I understand it's purpose and know it's a complicated issue. But what is your advise to people like me? I have the option to move, but many who are upside down in their mortgage do not.
You make a strong case for renting instead of buying. If you are renting i can see why you are outta there, if you own the house how is the new neighbors affecting your house value and your ease of selling it?
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This thread is a good fit to post this:

"You'll mellow out with a little age. Not everyone is blessed with the talents you have. Their burden is to suffer, yours is to work hard and share a little. Squeeze some room into your heart for benevolence and grace, you'll live longer."--ProjectWeenie (poster from the Houston Chronicle)
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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Why not just bring back the MINIMUM income requirements? That would eliminate the bottom feeders and help those who deserve it more.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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Are you from Chicago? Ever been in Cabrini Green?

Are you? CG was the most notorious PJs in the country. The mayor tried living there and gtfo w/n 3 weeks.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:47 PM
 
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The American dream brought to you by the polical class since FDR.

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I can only speak of my personal experience, so here's what I have. I've been in my house for 4 years. The first year I was there, I had no problems. It was a nice neighborhood, homes were only about 4 years old at that time. About a year after we moved in, my city made a deal with the city of Oakland to take a bunch of their section 8 housing to fill the empty houses in our city. Since then: My tailgate has been stolen off my truck. Dents in my truck from kids throwing rocks at it. Trash in my yard and sidewalk daily. My son was beat up by 3 kids at the park. 3 houses down became a pot "grow house", someone was shot in the house over it. Neighbor 2 houses down was stabbed in the face after a fight were 50-60 people were fighting in the street, complete with guns and knives. A bloody sweatshirt from the incident was found on my front lawn. Kids from one of those families were playing in the back of a pick up that didn't belong to them, when the lady asked through her window for them to get out of her truck, one of the men told her to watch her mouth or he'd drag her out of her house and beat her ass. Kids, anywhere from 10 on up, roaming the neighborhood and at the park until 2/3 in the morning constantly. Call the cops, they don't even show up. Constant scenes with yelling and screaming late at night. 4 families that where there when I first moved in moved out because of this crap (and yes, I talked to them and they told me why they were moving).

I'm moving at the end of next month.

So to those of you defending section 8, I understand it's purpose and know it's a complicated issue. But what is your advise to people like me? I have the option to move, but many who are upside down in their mortgage do not.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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I can only speak of my personal experience, so here's what I have. I've been in my house for 4 years. The first year I was there, I had no problems. It was a nice neighborhood, homes were only about 4 years old at that time. About a year after we moved in, my city made a deal with the city of Oakland to take a bunch of their section 8 housing to fill the empty houses in our city. Since then: My tailgate has been stolen off my truck. Dents in my truck from kids throwing rocks at it. Trash in my yard and sidewalk daily. My son was beat up by 3 kids at the park. 3 houses down became a pot "grow house", someone was shot in the house over it. Neighbor 2 houses down was stabbed in the face after a fight were 50-60 people were fighting in the street, complete with guns and knives. A bloody sweatshirt from the incident was found on my front lawn. Kids from one of those families were playing in the back of a pick up that didn't belong to them, when the lady asked through her window for them to get out of her truck, one of the men told her to watch her mouth or he'd drag her out of her house and beat her ass. Kids, anywhere from 10 on up, roaming the neighborhood and at the park until 2/3 in the morning constantly. Call the cops, they don't even show up. Constant scenes with yelling and screaming late at night. 4 families that where there when I first moved in moved out because of this crap (and yes, I talked to them and they told me why they were moving).

I'm moving at the end of next month.

So to those of you defending section 8, I understand it's purpose and know it's a complicated issue. But what is your advise to people like me? I have the option to move, but many who are upside down in their mortgage do not.
Lol, neighborhoods don't "transform" like that in a year.. you either missed the signs of trouble while moving into a bad area or you're embellishing your story a bit. Not saying poor people out of work aren't a social problem but you're making it sound like someone flipped a switch and Beverly Hills became Calcutta overnight.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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Lol, neighborhoods don't "transform" like that in a year.. you either missed the signs of trouble while moving into a bad area or you're embellishing your story a bit. Not saying poor people out of work aren't a social problem but you're making it sound like someone flipped a switch and Beverly Hills became Calcutta overnight.

3 years, homie...............
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I can only speak of my personal experience, so here's what I have. I've been in my house for 4 years. The first year I was there, I had no problems. It was a nice neighborhood, homes were only about 4 years old at that time. About a year after we moved in, my city made a deal with the city of Oakland to take a bunch of their section 8 housing to fill the empty houses in our city. Since then: My tailgate has been stolen off my truck. Dents in my truck from kids throwing rocks at it. Trash in my yard and sidewalk daily. My son was beat up by 3 kids at the park. 3 houses down became a pot "grow house", someone was shot in the house over it. Neighbor 2 houses down was stabbed in the face after a fight were 50-60 people were fighting in the street, complete with guns and knives. A bloody sweatshirt from the incident was found on my front lawn. Kids from one of those families were playing in the back of a pick up that didn't belong to them, when the lady asked through her window for them to get out of her truck, one of the men told her to watch her mouth or he'd drag her out of her house and beat her ass. Kids, anywhere from 10 on up, roaming the neighborhood and at the park until 2/3 in the morning constantly. Call the cops, they don't even show up. Constant scenes with yelling and screaming late at night. 4 families that where there when I first moved in moved out because of this crap (and yes, I talked to them and they told me why they were moving).

I'm moving at the end of next month.

So to those of you defending section 8, I understand it's purpose and know it's a complicated issue. But what is your advise to people like me? I have the option to move, but many who are upside down in their mortgage do not.


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Old 04-17-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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I'm sure he would be cool with alot of rednecks popping up in the neighborhood all of a sudden, doing donuts in the front yard among other pathologies.
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