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Old 06-28-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: South East
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Okay, here's the thing. The states do NOT have to set up those exchanges. If you can't insurance and your state does not have an exchange, this means you do NOT get insurance. Instead, you get that tax (the penalty for not getting insurance). So, very, very odd decision.
Yes, this presents a huge mess.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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From SCOTUS blog:
I don't quite understand. I thought it was the fact that the government was forcing you to PURCHASE something was the unconstitutional part? SCOTUS is saying the penalty part was the part in question? I don't get it, something isn't right with the way this got spun during the ruling.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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repeal obamacare with an executive order, done deal.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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So our taxes went up?

Who raises taxes in a fragile economy?
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I don't think the left should celebrate just yet. This decision gave the states the power to opt out and not provide the exchanges. All that means is that if you live in a state that opts out (there's about 25 right now), this ONLY means a rise in taxes if you can't get health insurance.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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No, you will go to jail for not paying the tax, unless exempt, which is what I said here ages ago and left wing kooks tried telling me how wrong I was..
I see, so it's a new tax. No one will escape the IRS.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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"A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circlue of our felicities."

Thomas Jefferson



The Founders must be rolling in their graves.
They were rolling in their graves by the 1850s.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Stock market seems to like the decision.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:42 AM
 
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I don't quite understand. I thought it was the fact that the government was forcing you to PURCHASE something was the unconstitutional part? SCOTUS is saying the penalty part was the part in question? I don't get it, something isn't right with the way this got spun during the ruling.
I guess any product can be looked at as a tax that the Gov says you must buy.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Yes, this presents a huge mess.
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I don't quite understand. I thought it was the fact that the government was forcing you to PURCHASE something was the unconstitutional part? SCOTUS is saying the penalty part was the part in question? I don't get it, something isn't right with the way this got spun during the ruling.
Basically, it was a sideways decision. The states do NOT have to comply. Thus, if your state does NOT comply and you don't have the ability to get insurance, you just get taxed (aka the penalty).
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