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Old 07-02-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Would it matter? It's the same thing.

But I wouldn't expect a highly educated person to get it.

Here's your clue:

ABORTION: To abort, to stop. 3.
to fail, cease, or stop at an early or premature stage.

Here's another clue for you. When a woman miscarries, it used to be medically deemed an abortion. I don't know if it still is.

Words do have several meanings, doncha know.
Here is a clue for you. Has a suicide EVER been classified as an abortion......anywhere?

Has anyone ever said their father/son/mother/sister decided to abort themselves?

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"Would it matter? It's the same thing."
Yes, it matters....how about we tell a woman who miscarries that her fetus committed suicide? The words are not interchangeable.....each carries a precise meaning.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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Here is a clue for you. Has a suicide EVER been classified as an abortion......anywhere?

Has anyone ever said their father/son/mother/sister decided to abort themselves?



Yes, it matters....how about we tell a woman who miscarries that her fetus committed suicide? The words are not interchangeable.....each carries a precise meaning.
By taking your own life, you are, in fact, aborting your life. It's not that hard to understand. Of course, it's not medically classified as abortion, but words have multiple meanings. A dictionary might be of help to you.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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You have the baby.
Why? In the situation I used in my example, neither of them want children, ever.

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Sex isn't a God-given right.
It's a court given right, and the courts outrank God.

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When you have sex, you understand that even with protection/birth control/etc., there's still a minute chance you can get pregnant.
Yes, and thanks to Roe v. Wade, those who choose not to have children have a backup option when other birth control methods fail.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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Why? In the situation I used in my example, neither of them want children, ever.

It's a court given right, and the courts outrank God.



Yes, and thanks to Roe v. Wade, those who choose not to have children have a backup option when other birth control methods fail.
Look, if you're fine with with the murdering of innocent beings, more power to you. I gave an honest answer to your question, and I'm sticking by it. Trust me, the courts don't always get it right. I don't want a child right now, but if I were to get my wife pregnant, abortion wouldn't even be considered.

People like you have no personal responsibility. I just laugh at people who think they ought to have sex without any utter consequence. I love having sex, but I know there is a chance it may result in having a child. I'm fine with that.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Many have challenged the word of God. They have failed.

Then there's global warming.

And they wonder why we laugh at them.
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One can always tell when the sensible side of an argument is being won. People start saying those who disagree with them are AFRAID.

You and your hocus pocus science are possibly the things I'm least afraid of.

And apparently you hadn't heard that you find any old blog or whatever to bolster your bloviations. Just try to remember that not everything you read on the internet is true. That includes junk science.
The word of "God"?

You mean the bible?

Isn't the bible just an ancient form of blog......... written by a bunch of superstitious old men....nothing more than hearsay?

And because you choose to believe what is written in an ancient blog.....I should believe it too? Really? LOL
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Look, if you're fine with with the murdering of innocent beings, more power to you.
Murder is the illegal killing of another human being. Not only do the unborn not meet that criteria, but such an act is legal. If its legal, it cannot, by definition, be murder.

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People like you have no personal responsibility.
Oh, but we have, thanks to alphamale, already established that aborting an unwanted pregnancy IS the practice of personal responsibility.

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I just laugh at people who think they ought to have sex without any utter consequence. I love having sex, but I know there is a chance it may result in having a child. I'm fine with that.
So again, what about people like my friends and myself who do not want children, now or ever? Are you seriously suggesting that we abstain from sex because of the small, small chance that it could result in an unwanted pregnancy?
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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Murder is the illegal killing of another human being. Not only do the unborn not meet that criteria, but such an act is legal. If its legal, it cannot, by definition, be murder.

Oh, but we have, thanks to alphamale, already established that aborting an unwanted pregnancy IS the practice of personal responsibility.



So again, what about people like my friends and myself who do not want children, now or ever? Are you seriously suggesting that we abstain from sex because of the small, small chance that it could result in an unwanted pregnancy?
Oh, so it has to be another human being? I didn't realize I couldn't murder a dog or cat. Would you prefer me to use the word kill, instead of murder?

You and I have far different opinions on what constitutes as personal responsibility.

I didn't suggest anything in regards to you or your friends, now did I?
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Oh, so it has to be another human being? I didn't realize I couldn't murder a dog or cat. You you prefer me to use the word kill, instead of murder?
Correct. This is why you never see anyone charged with murder when they kill an animal.

And just to throw a wrench into your whole argument, I'd point out that we can, legally, euthanize animals.

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You and I have far different opinions on what constitutes as personal responsibility.
That is because you define yours very narrowly, and only along the lines of your own moral code.

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I didn't suggest anything in regards to you or your friends, now did I?
But I am asking.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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Correct. This is why you never see anyone charged with murder when they kill an animal.

And just to throw a wrench into your whole argument, I'd point out that we can, legally, euthanize animals.

That is because you define yours very narrowly, and only along the lines of your own moral code.

But I am asking.
Once again, you're still killing an unborn infant. Don't want to call it murder? Well, good for you. Whatever helps you sleep at night. You might not be charged with a crime, but you're still killing another being.

Were they using birth control pills/condoms or has one actually had a surgical procedure?
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I though everyone knew to hold the coat hanger tightly between the knees BEFORE getting one's self pregnant.

Wow. You sound like all kinds of fun on a Friday night.
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