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I got news for you if you are living with your parents YOU ARE NOT SELF SUFFICIENT
I actually feel sorry for young people with this attitude. You are afraid to experience any level of hardship or struggle. It's those hardships and struggles that make you a mature adult and mentally strong.
You're soft, and weak and that's what turning young women off from guys like this.
You know who I feel sorry for? People like this who have a 2nd grade reading level and who thusly talk out of their a*s. I SPECIFICALLY STIPULATED that I dont condone anyone who lives at their parents home forever, and I myself havent lived at home since I was 19 years old. Ive lived in every living circumstance you can imagine except prison ...so you'd be best served to know what you're talking about before you project your own insecurities and shortcomings onto others.
And you need not think the sympathy is not mutual...People like the above quoted poster are immature, needy pinheads who cant comprehend simple english, and who cant think outside of the basement they reside within to realize that rattling on about some string of rambo-like "hardships" only makes them sound like insecure morons who seek to convince others that they have some sort of monopoly on overcoming adversity. They typically have convinced themselves in their idiotic glory that slogging through whatever perceived hardships they are enduring in their miserable lives, and then sermonizing people online about it, somehow validates their own manhood. Tragic indeed...smh
You're ignorant, weak-willed, and hypersensitive, and that my friend, is what's turning society off from guys like you...lol
Last edited by soletaire; 07-14-2012 at 09:48 AM..
Problem with your theory. What if whatever job isn't happening? I was in that situation two yrs ago. I should be ashamed because I accepted a warm place to sleep and food everyday from my mother?
You shouldn't be ashamed IF you helped your mother in any financial way you possibly could (giving up any and all unnecessary things) ...helped her clean house, wash windows, scrub floors,did the laundry, prepared food for both of you....and spent your "spare' time looking for a job...
Problem with your theory. What if whatever job isn't happening? I was in that situation two yrs ago. I should be ashamed because I accepted a warm place to sleep and food everyday from my mother?
In the article, whatever job was available. And he purposely didn't take it.
Maybe it's just where I live, but whatever job is ABUNDANT.
I have no issue with people living with their families. I have said as much on different threads. But a family home in the case I'm speaking of is one where everyone contributes a fair share. Rent, groceries, cleaning, upkeep, cooking, maintenance, repairs. Not sit on your ass waiting for miracle six-figure fantasy job to appear.
And, no. You should not be ashamed. Your mother is awesome for taking you back in. That's what families are supposed to do - not put everyone on welfare. I hope you do the same for her when she can't take care of herself instead of dumping her off at a nursing home.
Like seperate drinking fountains for blacks? One of your favorite things that 'worked"??
You base your whole social conscience on a TV jingle?
I'll hilight your favorite parts:
Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the hit parade.
Guys like us, we had it made."""
Ya, white GUYS had it made and screw everyone else....
"""Those were the days.""
That you worship.
"""Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.""
Sure, when they had jobs.
Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.
And you know who you were then, girls were girls and men were men."""
Yup, so very sexist and demeaning towards WOMEN. Make you feel good? I bet!
"""Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.
Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.
Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.
Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.
Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.
I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days. """""
Archie Bunker, the racist sexist rides again!!!!
See above for tactics that have brought us this sorry pass. Race is not a subject of this thread but according to a liberal everything in the past should be renounced because there was racism.
You really should read the ENTIRE article...it's really interesting.
Part of it states that men DON'T want relationships because they can live at home for free and use porn for sex. Why go out with a woman (i.e. spending money, needing to be emotionally available etc.) when they don't have to?
How are they becoming second rate citizens?
And what does the government have to do with anything?
Let's be honest here.
America hates men, and the more legal entanglements a man has, the more he exposes himself to a system that opposes him at every turn and proactively addresses the pretend advantages he has because he was fortunate enough to be born with a penis.
For example, if he gets his girlfriend, wife, acquaintance or whatever pregnant, she may decide to kill the child he fathered and he has no legal rights in this matter whatsoever. However, if she decides to keep the child, he'll pay child support and medical expenses for the next nineteen years.
The alternative is to wear a condom every time, but if you've ever put one of these things on, you understand why a lot of guys are simply not bothering to chase skirts.
Being in a committed relationship provides no assurance you won't end up in the trick bag either. A husband has no more legal rights than a casual sperm donor, and women who get comfortable in a relationship and situation tend to forget to take the pill. Then what?
As for the rest, I'll just say this...Congradulations! You won.
The feminist movement was left largely unopposed by caring men who, in reality, never did have any interest in oppressing women or limiting their opportunities.
Women wanted even more advantages over men than they had and they got them, so let's not **** and moan now about men withdrawing from women and declining the ***** deal they are being offered.
You know who I feel sorry for? People like this who have a 2nd grade reading level and who thusly talk out of their a*s. I SPECIFICALLY STIPULATED that I dont condone anyone who lives at their parents home forever, and I myself havent lived at home since I was 19 years old. Ive lived in every living circumstance you can imagine except prison ...so you'd be best served to know what you're talking about before you project your own insecurities and shortcomings onto others.
And you need not think the sympathy is not mutual...People like the above quoted poster are immature, needy pinheads who cant comprehend simple english, and who cant think outside of the basement they reside within to realize that rattling on about some string of rambo-like "hardships" only makes them sound like insecure morons who seek to convince others that they have some sort of monopoly on overcoming adversity. They typically have convinced themselves in their idiotic glory that slogging through whatever perceived hardships they are enduring in their miserable lives, and then sermonizing people online about it, somehow validates their own manhood. Tragic indeed...smh
You're ignorant, weak-willed, and hypersensitive, and that my friend, is what's turning society off from guys like you...lol
Here is the part of your post I elaborated on:
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If they dont like it, they dont like it. Just go forth and do your thing. Dont let some lame rag shame you into conformity -- I dont advocate living at home with your parents forever, but if you enjoy hobbies or videogames or whatever and you're self sufficient without relying on anyone else, then keep doing it lol..
You specifically endorse the that people "Keep This Behavior Going". Any attempt to repudiate that is simply walking back that statement. Face it, you have no problem with guys sitting on their azzes playing video, and acting like eternal adolescents as long as they possibly can.
Your response to my post is a perfect case of kicked dog barking the loudest.
I can see why this writer has a problem meeting good men... being over 60 doesn't help either maybe one day she'll meet her prince charming and stop writing whiny drivel on the internet but I doubt it.
The article was amusing. I had a friend who had an older brother who lived at home until he got married(he got married at 33). He was a real estate agent, college graduate(2 degrees), etc. So it didn't make sense that he was still living at home, but the plan was that he stay at home and save for a "home" and not move out until he is married and can buy a home. That is exactly what he did once he married. His sister(the friend of mine) is doing the same thing. She has no plans on moving out until she can get a house or get married(whichever comes first). For me, I was not willing to move out of my parents home until I made enough to live the type of lifestyle I wanted to live. I admit I wasn't particularly interested in slumming in some bad area, and eating ramen noodles every night, nor was I interested in having multiple roommates(I hate sharing). So when I got out of college, I moved back home, and worked until I made what felt like sufficient income for my lifestyle. So in that sense I can kind of understand why some of these men may not have felt as motivated to accept just "anything"(whether it be job, or apartment, ) just to be self sufficient. On the other hand, they aren't doing anything but playing video games and watching porn? That is a huge issue. If your goal is to find a career that you can tolerate, build an income, and be independent then any free time you have should be invested in coming up with "how". Yes it's fine to have leisure time, but not to the extent described in the article. It's a huge turn off for any woman to date a man that spends more time playing video games and masturbating to porn, than he is building his future, making money, and focusing on a career. I don't know what has happened to young men in my generation. I noticed this trend, around the time I graduated(the lazy attitude toward working, moving out, and even marriage and relationships) and it was a turn off then.
I have friends that are single simply because they can not seem to attract men that are trying(or attempting) to build a life and a future that involves more than doing the bare minimum. I don't want to generalize because I've met several men in my generation that are very independent, ambitious and would never move back home unless there were severe circumstances.
One thing that is puzzling is why do the men of my generation play video games so much? My dad didn't have time. I'm not understanding why men between 25-34 wouldn't be spending the majority of their time building careers and making money, and how they would even have time to spend playing video games in the frequency they do.
You are right! It is always someone else's fault It's a shame we don't live in a country where we can control our own destiny to a large extent. Dang it! If we only had places we could go to get an education or marketable skills. If only we could start our own businesses. If only!
Fortunately, I know a lot of men who have not fallen into this trap. They have pursued degrees and careers that have enabled them to be very successful and productive. Also, they are strong, confident men who value intelligent, hard-working women.
Sadly, there are men who have become complete slackers. It's not the government's fault. I personally blame the parents and the men.
I say this because i have an older brother who would have fallen into this category had my parents not pushed him. He was not college material (there's nothing wrong with that) and my parents told him if he didn't go to college, then he had to learn a trade. He spent a year at a trade school learning to be a mechanic and that career has served him well during the past 20 years. Had my parents not pushed him, he would have floundered around from one dead-end job to the next. He needed direction, and my parents were instrumental in providing him with direction. But he also had to want it himself. Otherwise, he would have never completed the program or been gainfully employed during the past 20 years.
It's time we stop blaming and start doing. If you don't like how your life is going, then change it!
Right!
I wanna bust *** all day then come home to a complete ***** who has the power of the state in her pocket.
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