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Whatever. I have standards...not gonna stoop to that level, sorry to disappoint.
oh you needn't worry - you're not disappointing me in the slightest, its rare i go 11 days, even if i do have to use the old visa card - so you may do, after your own fashion
yet this becomes offtopic, so im available via pm if you like
It's not the 50's anymore. Theres lots of molds that have been broken and the expectation that we get a job out of highschool, get married at 19-22, you get a little house and retire with a pension is not there anymore. Some of the sacred cows that have been slayed: It's ok for a women to take birth control, have children out of wedlock, Work full time. It's ok to have an SO and not get married. It's ok to marry someone of the same sex. It's ok for a woman to be Bi. It is still not acceptable for Men to be Bi (See related thread).
With all of the above happening, combined with people not settling, it's no wonder we have men and women who don't want to follow a 50's "Ideal" of marrying and settling down like people in the past did.
I'm not even saying it's worse now than then. It's all relative:
1) If you are a woman or man who wants to settle down with one partner you are in love with, have children and grand children, grow old together for the rest of your life, it's most likely things are much more bleak than it was in the past.
2) If you are a person who is into enjoying life as an Independant person free from bonds, you are good or better then the 50's.
3) If you are Gay or Lesbian and you want live in the open and get married things are much better!
4) Theres dozens of 'Fill in the blank' reasons why it's better or worse.
The economic depression of the last four years, euphemistically termed the Great Recession, has destroyed such fields as Engineering and Construction, that were male dominated. One factor the article ignores altogether: Young men living with parents are often given more freedom while women are kept on a short leash. For this reason women are more anxious to move out at a younger age.
Why would I marry someone I didn't love? I wouldn't have, and I didn't. Physical attraction and romance were a significant part of why I married my husband, but I would be lying to you if I said that was all that was needed. I would not have married him if he'd been a slacker, and that's the unvarnished truth. And I don't kid myself that my physical appearance wasn't a factor in his willingness to marry me and stay married to me, which is why I get up at 5:00 a.m. every single day to work out.
isnt part of someones personality whether they are a slacker or not? Would you consider a garbage man a slacker because he doesnt have a high powered job but works hard doing what he does?
isnt part of someones personality whether they are a slacker or not? Would you consider a garbage man a slacker because he doesnt have a high powered job but works hard doing what he does?
Psst... it's not really about being a 'hard worker', it's about the 'type' of job and of course the salary... pass it on.
I read the thread and the article and just sat here thinking about it for a while.
I was married to a man/boy for almost 40 years. He died this past January and I loved him. Even though I loved him I have to admit the biggest overarching characteristic that defined his life was LAZINESS. He always did as little as possible. Only enough to get by.
Was H ahead of his time? Probably not. He was the willing victim of a manipulating evil witch of a mother and a father who was completely cowed by her. He also had an evil half brother. I said willing victim because adults can change, he just chose to accept who he was raised to be. He was too lazy to change. But the end result was the same and if he was here today, he would tell you he should have changed. Living a whole life as a man/boy wasn't much of an existence. It's interesting to think about what made him who he was well before today's scary phenomenon of the man/boy. Not all that different. Weak man, strong woman.
Porn? Check. Much easier than having to work on a relationship with a real person.
Video Games? Check. You can maim and kill with no consequences. Do manly things in a fantasy world. While you are sitting in an easy chair. And you can have a do-over whenever you make a mistake. No real people you have to interact with. No real risk.
School? Check. But the only reason he made it was because I pushed him. I paid for it and did a heap of the work for him. As a matter of fact, I paid for most everything. I usually made more than him and I was never unemployed until after I retired. He was often unemployed or forced to work contract because he was lazy and never did more than he absolutely had to.
Oral Sex? Check. It was the only sex he really enjoyed. Why? Because he didn't have to do anything or invest anything emotionally.
Marriage? Check. He married me when his parents told him to get out in the real world. He was looking for another caretaker and he found one. Me.
It's a mistake to go through life too shallow and lazy to be truly interested and devoted to...nothing. Sad!
I read the thread and the article and just sat here thinking about it for a while.
I was married to a man/boy for almost 40 years. He died this past January and I loved him. Even though I loved him I have to admit the biggest overarching characteristic that defined his life was LAZINESS. He always did as little as possible. Only enough to get by.
Was H ahead of his time? Probably not. He was the willing victim of a manipulating evil witch of a mother and a father who was completely cowed by her. He also had an evil half brother. I said willing victim because adults can change, he just chose to accept who he was raised to be. He was too lazy to change. But the end result was the same and if he was here today, he would tell you he should have changed. Living a whole life as a man/boy wasn't much of an existence. It's interesting to think about what made him who he was well before today's scary phenomenon of the man/boy. Not all that different. Weak man, strong woman.
Porn? Check. Much easier than having to work on a relationship with a real person.
Video Games? Check. You can maim and kill with no consequences. Do manly things in a fantasy world. While you are sitting in an easy chair. And you can have a do-over whenever you make a mistake. No real people you have to interact with. No real risk.
School? Check. But the only reason he made it was because I pushed him. I paid for it and did a heap of the work for him. As a matter of fact, I paid for most everything. I usually made more than him and I was never unemployed until after I retired. He was often unemployed or forced to work contract because he was lazy and never did more than he absolutely had to.
Oral Sex? Check. It was the only sex he really enjoyed. Why? Because he didn't have to do anything or invest anything emotionally.
Marriage? Check. He married me when his parents told him to get out in the real world. He was looking for another caretaker and he found one. Me.
It's a mistake to go through life too shallow and lazy to be truly interested and devoted to...nothing. Sad!
Good cautionary tale, it happens so much now a days. I know so many men like this. They all have unhealthy dependent relationships with their mothers. Calling them multiple times a day, checking in every time they get somewhere etc. What ever happened to parents allowing their boys to be boys. Letting them out to play with neighborhood friends, scraped knees and the whole bit? I grew up this way and find I have many more masculine qualities then 90% of men my age.
I read the thread and the article and just sat here thinking about it for a while.
I was married to a man/boy for almost 40 years. He died this past January and I loved him. Even though I loved him I have to admit the biggest overarching characteristic that defined his life was LAZINESS. He always did as little as possible. Only enough to get by.
Was H ahead of his time? Probably not. He was the willing victim of a manipulating evil witch of a mother and a father who was completely cowed by her. He also had an evil half brother. I said willing victim because adults can change, he just chose to accept who he was raised to be. He was too lazy to change. But the end result was the same and if he was here today, he would tell you he should have changed. Living a whole life as a man/boy wasn't much of an existence. It's interesting to think about what made him who he was well before today's scary phenomenon of the man/boy. Not all that different. Weak man, strong woman.
Porn? Check. Much easier than having to work on a relationship with a real person.
Video Games? Check. You can maim and kill with no consequences. Do manly things in a fantasy world. While you are sitting in an easy chair. And you can have a do-over whenever you make a mistake. No real people you have to interact with. No real risk.
School? Check. But the only reason he made it was because I pushed him. I paid for it and did a heap of the work for him. As a matter of fact, I paid for most everything. I usually made more than him and I was never unemployed until after I retired. He was often unemployed or forced to work contract because he was lazy and never did more than he absolutely had to.
Oral Sex? Check. It was the only sex he really enjoyed. Why? Because he didn't have to do anything or invest anything emotionally.
Marriage? Check. He married me when his parents told him to get out in the real world. He was looking for another caretaker and he found one. Me.
It's a mistake to go through life too shallow and lazy to be truly interested and devoted to...nothing. Sad!
Sounds like you Loved him but didn't like that type of personality?
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rent a ho already
