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Old 09-02-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Unfortunately, throughout the history of the world, intellectuals and the educated have been hunted down and exterminated, periodically. Cambodia being one of the most prime examples. Soviet Union under Stalin being another. The Taliban being the current perpetrators. Generally when uneducated religious zealots gain power, exterminating what they believe to be the intellectual elite, is at the top of their agenda.
Three of your examples - and we could add a dozen more to the list - are that of educated atheistic zealots gaining power and exterminating religious intellectuals (among others). As for the Taliban and other Mohammedan tyrannies, they focus on exterminating their fellow Mohammedans, as there isn't much of an intellectual elite in their countries to begin with.
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Three of your examples - and we could add a dozen more to the list - are that of educated atheistic zealots gaining power and exterminating religious intellectuals (among others). As for the Taliban and other Mohammedan tyrannies, they focus on exterminating their fellow Mohammedans, as there isn't much of an intellectual elite in their countries to begin with.

Ahktar: The intellectual elitist of the Taliban.

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Old 09-02-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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With regard to post college voters they are overwhelming democratic and it encompasses, in theory anyone who has had some post graduate training.
Overwhelming is a bit of a stretch. We're talking 10-20 point margins depending on the election.

The Democrats do clearly win scientists and those in academia by overwhelming margins so those large margins have to be counteracted by other groups with advanced degrees (or credits, presumably; there are a lot of people who take some masters-level classes without intending to get a degree) in order for the overall margin to be less large.

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I imagine there are a lot of people out there who have masters, or credit on masters in a wide range of fields, that may not be politically determinative.
That's very true. Their careers are actually more likely to be determinative, as I mentioned earlier. However, not all careers are.

Also, undergraduate majors are certainly less politically determinative.

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Old 09-02-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Anecdotal evidence doesn't exactly work.
Nice hand book huh? A talking point for every situation..
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: NC
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Overwhelming is a bit of a stretch. We're talking 10-20 point margins depending on the election.
I think it a country that is near evenly split 10-20 point margins is fairly overwhelming. That is like the 1984 Reagan margin.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Democrat and Republican = parities. Liberal and conservative = ideology. Conservatives, not liberals, founded the KKK. Let's remember that at one point the liberal party was the Republican party. That now switched. However not all Democrats are liberal and not all Republicans are conservative.

thats because at that time the liberal party was not named as liberals, but as the liberty party. something that neither the republican nor democrat parties of this day and age even want to be associated with.

ask both parties if the want total liberty for the country as a whole, and both will say no.
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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As of now, people are laughing at the conservative movement. Conservatives have allowed bigotry and malarky to permeate its narration for a while now.
First, you have to give us YOUR definition of "intellectual".
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:13 AM
 
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thats because at that time the liberal party was not named as liberals, but as the liberty party. something that neither the republican nor democrat parties of this day and age even want to be associated with.

ask both parties if the want total liberty for the country as a whole, and both will say no.
Has nothing to do with the post I posted.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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As of now, people are laughing at the conservative movement. Conservatives have allowed bigotry and malarky to permeate its narration for a while now.
We're looking for do-ers not academics.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:29 AM
 
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We're looking for do-ers not academics.
We should be looking for academics who are doers. Otherwise we would have a Bachmann or Palin as president.
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