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Old 09-13-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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Just shut down their internet access to the USA.

That would stop this bullcrap immediately.

They don't need to know what we do in this country, and we shouldn't give a damn what they do either.

Next step. Close all of our consulate, and embassies, followed with ending all contact with that part of the world.

If they were isolated like North Korea, they'd shut the hell up.
This is how I feel. I'm about tired of listening to their non stop whining. Buncha p**sies.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Leave Terry Jones alone

No. If he wants to shoot off his mouth, his right, others have the right to reply.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't support this crap. But I don't see it as an excuse for murder either. If all religions acted this way, then we would be in real trouble. All religions need to stop with all the anti-other-religion crap.
Nobody on the right or left is excusing murder. The arguement is what the various political factions make of the issue. In one thread here on C-D, the right wing stands firm that the movie makers had every right to make the movie they did and any deaths resultant are strictly the fault of the killers. These very same posters in another thread on C-D in Elections are making the claim that President Obama is responsible for these murders. No where does any right winger censor or disavow the maker of the film. Which is it?
The right wing conservatives are playing both sides of the fence on this issue down the line and the hypocracy is glaring.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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There's no difference between radical Islam and Islam. Heck there is no such thing as radical Islam. You're either a follower of Islam or not, the Koran makes no such distinctions.
By that argument, there is no such thing as a non-Radical Jew. And yet Jews are the most civilized of the Abrahamic religions.

There are lots of Muslims who interpret the Quran liberally just as there are plenty of Christians who ignore the Bible's commands to execute Sabbath breakers, or slaughter the infidels.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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Did he portray Jesus Christ as a sodomizer and pediphile? There are degrees, you know.
There are degrees, but some Muslims are offended by cartoon portrayals of Muhammed. There is NO justification for killing people over insults, whether they be to people or deities, dead or alive.

Look, peeps. You are not being disloyal to your particular political persuasion if you can see that (1) people in the U.S. have a constitutional right to free speech, even when it's offensive; (2) no one has a right to kill because their religious beliefs are ridiculed (3) it's the extremists who are responsible for the deaths, not Jones or anyone else who portrays Muhommed in a bad light and (4) if you know that depicting a religious deity or icon in a bad light is going to incite an international chaos, you can choose not to do it.

This is not a black-and-white issue. It's complicated and involves competing interests. Resist the urge to blame "the other side" for what's happened.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:05 PM
 
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Leave Terry Jones alone

No. If he wants to shoot off his mouth, his right, others have the right to reply.
No, freedom of speech means freedom from criticism.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Leave Terry Jones alone

No. If he wants to shoot off his mouth, his right, others have the right to reply.

I defend your right to not leave Terry Jones alone. Be my guest. Say whatever you want about him or to him.... so long as you dont violate his rights...

however, you saying things to him or about him is a far cry from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs calling the guy. THAT guy have a right.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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I repped both posts because they are both on the mark. Christians are attacked left and right in this country and if one is a Christian of course they are judgmental(rolls eyes)but atheists, Muslims and the like can get away with anything.
Christians make up 75% of the American population. Christian Fundamentalist is attacked, because it's an evil corruption that makes Christianity look as bad as Extremist Islam. That's not an attack on Christianity. Get over your persecution complex.

If Muslims were the majority population in this country and constantly trying to push religious beliefs into secular law, you can sure as heck bet atheists and Christians alike would be condemning them.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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No, freedom of speech means freedom from criticism.
Please tell me this is a joke...
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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Muslim extremists have to be the most idiotic brainwashed species on earth!
Perhaps, but Christian Fundamentalists/Evangelicals are trying quite hard to take that title from them.
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