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Old 11-16-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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A link would be nice.

If true - great response from this lady - and a reminder that while Washington State may be liberal - it still values self defense and the right to keep and bear arms.

It is also only one of two states to have hanging as an option for capital punishment (the other being New Hampshire) and it has carried out two hangngs within the past 20 years.

That is sad - and I do look forward to the day that my two home states - California and Washington - abolish the death penalty.
Woman pulls gun on flasher: 'I'm going to blow your brains out' - U.S. News

 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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BTW, it's a "magazine", not a clip (two different things)...and what kind of fool would carry a self defense weapon without having it loaded?
Both of those discrepancies plus the fact that there is no link (or reference to a print source) make me question this story.

Kudos to the lady if she did this - I just want to see some support.
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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LMAO at the unintentional dirty joke. Yes, I am a 14 year old boy today. Heh.

Carry on.
LOL, scripted like the beginning of a porno.

Anyway, I'd say this response is warranted considering she had her child with her.
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Thanks.
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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If, as you propose, the Flasher had made a grab for either the woman or the child that would be sufficient violence to justify SHOOTING him not just brandishing a gun and threatening him. You do not pull a gun on people that are annoying or embarrassing you. You pull a gun on assailants and nothing else. Guns are not threat weapons. They are for shooting and killing in self defense.
Some guy running around naked does not justify her response even if a child was present.
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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LOL, scripted like the beginning of a porno.

Anyway, I'd say this response is warranted considering she had her child with her.
It would be warranted, child or not.

This lady knows her stuff and won't take anything from nobody.
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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If, as you propose, the Flasher had made a grab for either the woman or the child that would be sufficient violence to justify SHOOTING him not just brandishing a gun and threatening him. You do not pull a gun on people that are annoying or embarrassing you. You pull a gun on assailants and nothing else. Guns are not threat weapons. They are for shooting and killing in self defense.
Some guy running around naked does not justify her response even if a child was present.

use of force

if a person feels in threat for themselves or they believe that someone else is being threatened, they have the authority to shoot. you just have to be able to justify the shooting.
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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You have SO missed the point of posting this ....


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While I applaud her actions, it's a good way to get arrested, especially in WA state. She better be able to justify fear for her life or unavoidable grave bodily harm.

BTW, it's a "magazine", not a clip (two different things)...and what kind of fool would carry a self defense weapon without having it loaded?
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Someone posted the link


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Both of those discrepancies plus the fact that there is no link (or reference to a print source) make me question this story.

Kudos to the lady if she did this - I just want to see some support.
 
Old 11-16-2012, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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If, as you propose, the Flasher had made a grab for either the woman or the child that would be sufficient violence to justify SHOOTING him not just brandishing a gun and threatening him. You do not pull a gun on people that are annoying or embarrassing you. You pull a gun on assailants and nothing else. Guns are not threat weapons. They are for shooting and killing in self defense.
Some guy running around naked does not justify her response even if a child was present.
At worst, it's a grey area. The assailant was obviously unstable, or at least not "right in the head". Assuming he was within 7 yards (not specified in the story), he was an immediate threat, due to disparity of force/strength. She did the right thing by giving a verbal command to stop. This would be a good one to talk with a concealled carry trainer in her state about. It's always easy to second guess someone in this kind of situation. Honestly, who knew exactly what the criminal planned? Maybe he was just intending to flash the kid (which makes him a sexual predator) or maybe he was going further.

The presence and use of the gun (without even firing) stopped the threat. Add this to the 600,000+ times per year firearms are used to stop crimes against a person. And perhaps this will make the perp decide to give up on flashing for entertainment, and keep others from being a victim.

BTW, not a bad little LCP that she carries.
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