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Old 11-25-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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Ethanol is Ethanol. Doesn't matter what its made from, its just how easy it is to extract CH3CH2OH from it. We don't grow much sugar cane in the United States, but we grow one hell of a lot of corn.

Brazil doesn't do a lot of corn, but has a lot of sugar cane.
That's true. I guess I should say it takes less energy to produce sugar cane ethanol than corn ethanol. Either way, I don't think it is a good focus with better options out there.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:05 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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Oh, another "can't wait till the old racists die out" idea.
yea I can't wait either... Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are old as the hills. It shouldn't be long before they are gone.

You do realize that liberals are racists don't you? They think black Americas are too stupid and incompetent to compete with white Americans, which is why they push Affirmative Action and other special privileges because they think you can't do it all by yourself? These Liberals want poor black Americans to stay poor and dependent, because as long as they do, they'll keep voting for the Democrat Party?

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton exploit you to promote a racially divided country. ... They make their living this way. It's race base opportunism, They keep themselves in the headlines by keeping America racially divided. They are making BIG money “exploiting” you.

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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That's true. I guess I should say it takes less energy to produce sugar cane ethanol than corn ethanol. Either way, I don't think it is a good focus with better options out there.
What better options are there in the states? Sugar isn't easily produced here, except through corn.

I mean, bang for the buck wise, natural gas is far more economical then gasoline or ethanol is, but you don't see people saying we should dump them for nat gas either.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:48 PM
 
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I love watching amateur idiots discuss stuff they know absolutely nothing about.

China Starts Probe of US Feed Dumping driving down DDG feed & corn prices in China far below the cost their farmers can produce them for.

Livestock gain weight 30% faster on 15% less DDG feed from ethanol plants than they do on corn. With ethanol production we have more food than without. Animal feeders can't even be competitive anymore without feeding their livestock Ethanol's DDG feed.


Feeding Cattle DDGs
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:52 PM
 
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We will have 4 next-gen cellulosic ethanol plants operating next year.

DuPont breaks ground on $200M cellulosic ethanol plant

Poet, the largest ethanol maker in the U.S., has turned down a $105 million federal loan guarantee that would have financed it's cellulosic ethanol plants. Poet announced it has established a joint venture with life sciences company Royal DSM to commercially demonstrate and license its cellulosic ethanol made from corn cob and crop residue. The joint venture, called POET-DSM Advanced Biofuels LLC, is scheduled to start production in the second half of 2013.

Poet has been working towards commercial production of next-gen cellulosic ethanol for more than a decade. In 2006, it partnered with DuPont to find cost effective ways to bring corn stover-ethanol to market. Two years later, Poet built a pilot plant in Scotland, South Dakota, where it began testing its cellulosic ethanol production process. Poet plans to eventually scale up its production to 25 million gallons a year at Project Liberty, the company’s long-planned cellulosic plant in Emmetsburg, Iowa.

Kinder Morgan completes ethanol pipeline between New Jersey and New York

The directional drill pipeline includes full automation and a state-of-the-art leak detection system.
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