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That is horrible. I wish Hamas would stop firing rockets at Israel. I also wish Hamas had accepted the ceasefire that Israel accepted.
Why on earth would Hamas accept a ceasefire they had no part in planning?
Hamas made its conditions clear: it wants Israel to release the hundreds of Palestinian prisoners it abducted in the past month without trial, without arrest warrants, and without cause.
If Israel were serious about a ceasefire, it would compromise with the Palestinians, not go to Israel's #1 Arab ally in Egypt and try to force conditions on the Palestinians. Rather, it knew the ceasefire would fail, so they went ahead and drafted one to accuse the Palestinians of not being serious about peace.
All the ceasefire drafted by Israel and Egypt planned to do was return everything to the status quo, which is Israel strikes Gaza and the West Bank from time to time and kills civilians, just minus the international and media scrutiny.
asked for the ceasefire conditions from the last major round of fighting with Israel in [November] 2012 to be reinstated, for the re-release of prisoners freed by Israel in exchange for the kidnapped soldier Gilad Shalit, who were rounded up again by Israeli after the kidnapping of three Israeli teenagers, later found murdered, and an end to what it says is Israeli meddling in the Palestinian unity government.
In other words, Hamas mostly wants Israel to abide by agreements it has already made.
In November 2012, Israel agreed to “stop all hostilities in the Gaza Strip [by] land, sea and air including incursions and targeting of individuals.”
There are countless Jews that are against the terror in Israel including some notable people I strongly admire like Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman (from Democracy Now!). It sounds like an ignorant broken record when the "jew-hater" accusation is thrown at people that are anti-war and against terror and killing innocent women and children.
You want people from Gaza to "evacuate" a prison.
It sounds like a broken record when Jew haters try to portray Israel as a brutal monster oppressive regime when it is in reality the nation in the region with the most freedom and the most peaceful ways. Of course there are Jews against Israel. There were Jews who joined the Nazi Party in Germany. That means nothing. People have free will. Jews are people and like all people they make their own individual choices. Some of them are going to fall for your ridiculous propaganda.
Answer me this: why is that the holy sites within Israel are open to people all religions, including Islam, while the holy sites in Arab nations are not open to any religion except Islam?
It's hard to argue that this is not genocide when the vast majority of the killings by Israelis are innocent women and children-only a small fraction of the killings are militants.
Blame the militants who hide behind their women and children like the dogs they are!
It's hard to argue that this is not genocide when the vast majority of the killings by Israelis are innocent women and children-only a small fraction of the killings are militants.
Agreed. The Palestinian death toll is at around 200 whereas just one Jew was killed. It's sickening. I read somewhere that this whole thing started because two Palestinians were killed by the Israelis, which is what led to the kidnapping of 3 Jews. But of course, you won't hear about that in the media.
Why on earth would Hamas accept a ceasefire they had no part in planning?
Hamas made its conditions clear: it wants Israel to release the hundreds of Palestinian prisoners it abducted in the past month without trial, without arrest warrants, and without cause.
If Israel were serious about a ceasefire, it would compromise with the Palestinians, not go to Israel's #1 Arab ally in Egypt and try to force conditions on the Palestinians. Rather, it knew the ceasefire would fail, so they went ahead and drafted one to accuse the Palestinians of not being serious about peace.
All the ceasefire drafted by Israel and Egypt planned to do was return everything to the status quo, which is Israel strikes Gaza and the West Bank from time to time and kills civilians, just minus the international and media scrutiny.
asked for the ceasefire conditions from the last major round of fighting with Israel in [November] 2012 to be reinstated, for the re-release of prisoners freed by Israel in exchange for the kidnapped soldier Gilad Shalit, who were rounded up again by Israeli after the kidnapping of three Israeli teenagers, later found murdered, and an end to what it says is Israeli meddling in the Palestinian unity government.
In other words, Hamas mostly wants Israel to abide by agreements it has already made.
In November 2012, Israel agreed to “stop all hostilities in the Gaza Strip [by] land, sea and air including incursions and targeting of individuals.”
WE can tell you see Hamas as the victims here. Since they didn't sign the cease fire, raining 1600 rockets in 8 days on Israel is perfectly fine. I suppose you'd like to see the 67' boundaries back as well. Then Israel would become likely to be erased from history again.
That is what would make you happy, yes?
I know the use of the term Apartheid is going to dusted off as well.
Israel prides itself on giving ridiculous three-minute warnings of imminent bombings. These kids were not warned. Nor were they "human shields" for Hamas, as Israel loves to claim, as the hotel the beach is located on is used by foreign journalists. Israel cannot spin this to fit any of its ridiculous claims - this was a cold-blooded murder.
These were four cousins, aged 9 thru 11, who were slaughtered for being Palestinian. And there are hundreds if not thousands of similar cases throughout Israel's history. May they rest in peace.
They were casualties of a retaliation strike after Israel was attacked first. See, that's how it works. Japanese people ended up dying after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Germans ended up dying after Germany invaded Europe. North Koreans ended up dying after North Korea invaded South Korea. North Vietnamese ended up dying after the North Vietnam Army invaded South Vietnam. It takes a monumental simpleton to call that murder or to day they were slaughtered for being Palestinian.
If the Palestinians were concerned about children dying perhaps they should not have launched rocket attacks on Israel. Or is that cause-and-effect relationship too complicated for you to understand?
WE can tell you see Hamas as the victims here. Since they didn't sign the cease fire, raining 1600 rockets in 8 days on Israel is perfectly fine. I suppose you'd like to see the 67' boundaries back as well. Then Israel would become likely to be erased from history again.
That is what would make you happy, yes?
No, I don't want the 1967 boundaries back. I want 1948 back. Aka no Zionist state. One state for all - Palestinians and Jews - with the right of return for the Palestinians displaced respected as well.
While I sympathize with the people of the Gaza strip, they are being led by an organization that refuses to recognize Israel's right to even exist.
Warnings? At least Israel gives some warning (at times, depending on target). I have yet to read that Hamas has issued any warnings at all. They (Hamas) are apparently sad that they are not killing Jews.
I read that at least one rocket had the range to reach the outskirts of Jerusalem. Hamas better be careful with that: it would be a pity if one of their rockets destroyed the Dome on the Rock.
Blame the militants who hide behind their women and children like the dogs they are!
The Gaza Strip is a small piece of land with 1.5 million people living in it... it's closed off by Egypt to the south and Israel from the north and east (as well as by sea). With such small land capacity, Israel KNOWS that attacking Gaza will result in civilian casualties, whether they are targeting Hamas fighters or not. This is a violation of international law.
By the way, those times Israel bombed UN refugee compounds, hospitals, and schools, SURELY they were after Hamas, right?
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So your country is in the middle of what is essentially a war and you are out running around on a beach? Doesn't make much sense to me. There are consequences for stupidity. Israel obviously didn't know they were kids, and didn't want to take any chances. End of story.
The kids were on a beach by a hotel used by foreign journalists - you would think Israel would be dignified enough to not strike it. Where was Israel's classic "we're going to bomb you in 60 seconds, run away" warning?
Israel prides itself on giving ridiculous three-minute warnings of imminent bombings. These kids were not warned. Nor were they "human shields" for Hamas, as Israel loves to claim, as the hotel the beach is located on is used by foreign journalists. Israel cannot spin this to fit any of its ridiculous claims - this was a cold-blooded murder.
These were four cousins, aged 9 thru 11, who were slaughtered for being Palestinian. And there are hundreds if not thousands of similar cases throughout Israel's history. May they rest in peace.
Both sides are wrong and the innocent people on both sides suffer. I wondering last night as to the Jews being the Chosen ones as to how God looks at this uneven slaughter of innocents?
The Lord i was raised with would be against this.
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