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Old 12-14-2012, 05:19 AM
 
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The problems are seen by the attitude of this post. The country that was once looked for for inspiration was America before Obama

Yes. Because it was OBAMA who damaged America's standing in the world!





What are you smoking, anyway, and how do you maintain your high for so long?



Obama actually has restored America's image in the world, and fixed the damage that neo-cons wrought over 8 painful years where people were embarassed to say they were American while travelling abroad (perhaps conservatives would know this, if they ever actually travelled beyond the buffet line on the Carnival Cruise).
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:57 AM
 
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Many conservatives feel that conservativism is such a great thing and yet when you look at the countries and places around the world that are conservative they are often have major problems (ie Saudi Arabia, Libya, Afghanistan[can't get much more conservative then that],etc.). Now, when you look at the liberal countries (most of Europe, Japan, S. Korea, etc.) they are in a hell of a better situation. Heck, the "conservatives" in many of those countries are the equivalent of many Democrats here. Even here in this country if you take away the more liberal areas (ie west coast, much the midwest, northeast) our country would be a shadow of itself. So where are these great examples of countries that conservatism produces?
conservatism as currently practiced in America is relatively new. The brand of conservatism that we see was really the result of FDR's new deal programs, LBJ's great society programs, and the resulting racial turmoil, vietnam, sexual revolution/feminism, etc.

The problem for conservatives alive right now is even if they are older, they grew up in a world dominated by liberal policies, the America that they love from their youth was dominated by huge government expansion now though they consider most those things socialism and its bad.

So they have no nation to claim.

Again they attempt to re-write American history and say we used to have a conservative government that did very little, but of course that has never been true.

Our federal government has always been very active within this nation was always involved in the strengthening of business.

conservatives claim no nation as fitting their vision. The best they can do is claim that America many years ago was a conservative paradise.
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