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She also withheld palliative medication from the terminally ill.
Pain is the kiss of Jesus my foot.
Letters to the Editor - The Tech She believed that, regardless of her victims’ religion, suffering would bring them closer to Jesus. There was so much wrong with the “care” she and her ilk provided that there is hardly room to go into detail here — reusing needles, withholding pain medication, etc. Her “hospitals” existed only to maximize suffering and convert people to Christianity. As the poor died in her arms, she would baptize them if they were not already Christians.
This 50% decrease in murders in US would be a key argument if there had not been any gun control measures, but the truth is that there were gun control measures, the - Clinton gun ban, which expired in 2004. Did that play a part in the reduction, or was the reduction a coincidence?
The Crime bill did not make it any harder to get a semi auto then before it went into law. All the gun company's did was to make alterations to the guns like removing a bayonet lug or putting on a thumb hole stock to get it past the how it looks law. Australia did the ban right if your going to ban something. You can't own a semi auto in that country. The gov. did a buy back program. The crime bill grandfathered in all guns prior to the law taking affect. Since the 1996 Australia gun ban there have been no mass shootings. The proof is in the pudding.
The study used Russia as an example of a country with strict gun laws, but high murder rates. The truth is that in Moscow alone, some 400,000 people legally keep 470,000 weapons.
Do you know what those weapons are...?
effectively shotguns (which are the only real dangerous ones), gas pistols, and revolvers shooting rubber bullets.
That's like comparing a GLOCK to a Taser.
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Also, Russia is plagued by corruption and lawlessness, so it makes no sense to compary the US to Russia in a matter like this.
There wasn't a comparison of the US to Russia in the study, it was an examination of Russia, it's murder rates, and it's gun laws and comparisons with near neighbors with varying gun laws and others across Europe. According to many people the US is plagued with corruption and lawlessness (isn't murder by gun a lawless act?).
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Why can't gun owners say that even if they don't want to ban assault weapons, at the very minimum we should all agree on is that there should be a federal law that mandates all guns transactions go through a licensed FFL dealer and a back ground check is done.
I've said it before to you in two other threads, and I'll now say it again, the FedGov has not place in regulating INTRASTATE commerce. Petition your states representatives to close the "loophole" you want closed that's their job. If you're so averse to this practice then why have you self admitted you've done it without so much as taking down any of the buyers information? Hypocritical much?
She also withheld palliative medication from the terminally ill.
Pain is the kiss of Jesus my foot.
Letters to the Editor - The Tech She believed that, regardless of her victims’ religion, suffering would bring them closer to Jesus. There was so much wrong with the “care” she and her ilk provided that there is hardly room to go into detail here — reusing needles, withholding pain medication, etc. Her “hospitals” existed only to maximize suffering and convert people to Christianity. As the poor died in her arms, she would baptize them if they were not already Christians.
I did not know that. But nothing suprises me about Christians. They are the biggest bunch of nuts on the planet, well all religoin is just bat crap crazy.
“I don’t need a 25-round clip for effective home defense, and I sure don’t need one for hunting,” Rep. Martin Heinrich (D), a newly elected senator from New Mexico who had “A” ratings from the NRA, told a local newspaper. “That’s just too much killing power. It defies common sense.”
Gun industry recoils from horror - The Washington Post
Unless you all guns, everywhere folks can tell the American people why these type of weapons the Congressman is referring are needed in America. They should banned.
Do you know what those weapons are...?
effectively shotguns (which are the only real dangerous ones), gas pistols, and revolvers shooting rubber bullets.
That's like comparing a GLOCK to a Taser.
There wasn't a comparison of the US to Russia in the study, it was an examination of Russia, it's murder rates, and it's gun laws and comparisons with near neighbors with varying gun laws and others across Europe. According to many people the US is plagued with corruption and lawlessness (isn't murder by gun a lawless act?).
I've said it before to you in two other threads, and I'll now say it again, the FedGov has not place in regulating INTRASTATE commerce. Petition your states representatives to close the "loophole" you want closed that's their job. If you're so averse to this practice then why have you self admitted you've done it without so much as taking down any of the buyers information? Hypocritical much?
Totally wrong. The SCOUTS has ruled that even if a gun or Marijuana is not intended to go out of state that the Federal Gov. has the right under the 10th amendment to regulat them. Your argument just will not fly old boy.
Do you know what those weapons are...?
effectively shotguns (which are the only real dangerous ones), gas pistols, and revolvers shooting rubber bullets.
That's like comparing a GLOCK to a Taser.
No, that is not true. To get a license to purchase a firearm in Russia, you first need to own a gas pistol etc, and then you can purchase a "real" gun.
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There wasn't a comparison of the US to Russia in the study, it was an examination of Russia, it's murder rates, and it's gun laws and comparisons with near neighbors with varying gun laws and others across Europe. According to many people the US is plagued with corruption and lawlessness (isn't murder by gun a lawless act?).
Rampant lawlessness in Russia means out of control mafia, gangs, and corrupt police force. We do not have such issues in US.
This 50% decrease in murders in US would be a key argument if there had not been any gun control measures, but the truth is that there were gun control measures, the - Clinton gun ban, which expired in 2004. Did that play a part in the reduction, or was the reduction a coincidence?
Ok well if it played a part it's difficult to see...
it's difficult to tell whether the reduction was due to the bill or not, I'd expect that if it were then there would have been bounceback at the expiry, but this has not been shown to be the case, indeed we're down almost a full point from nothing in around 8 years (5.5 to 4.7)
Here's an interesting graph
If you look at 1990 though to today we look like we were already on a downward slope, although we do appear to be bottoming out there's certainly no obvious inflections at 1994 or 2004 to indicate there was a sudden impact either at the beginning of the ban or the end of the ban which isn't looking too good for it's effectiveness.
You can't have a loose patchwork of gun laws that are all different across different states, and little federal regulations and say "HA! See gun control doesn't work!"
it's difficult to tell whether the reduction was due to the bill or not, I'd expect that if it were then there would have been bounceback at the expiry, but this has not been shown to be the case, indeed we're down almost a full point from nothing in around 8 years (5.5 to 4.7)
That's what I said. There was a dramatic decrease in murder when the ban went into effect, but there may have been other factors. And when the ban expired in 2004, the violence did not jump back to where it was before the ban. Will it go back in near future? I doubt it, but in FL the numbers are creeping back up. I think in late 1980s and early 1990s the biggest reason for the violent crime explosion was the crack-cocaine epidemic.
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