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Old 01-21-2013, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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If anyone has noticed, the whole "equality" obsession is a conservative thing. You can be in a political conversation where the issue isn't even being discussed, and a conservative will always come out of left field and scream "equality of opportunity, not outcome." I just sit there stunned, like "who in the hell said anything about equality to begin with?"

This whole thing started when Rush Limbaugh started saying the whole "opportunity vs outcome" thing about 25 or so years ago, so now conservatives use every opportunity to bring it up. Liberals usually just assume that we're all basically equal anyway...its not a hot topic with us.

I'd be willing to bet that any thread dealing with equality in the history of C-D was started by a right winger. Look at this thread for example....brought to you by someone that started a thread about the virtues of Social Darwinism...totally unprovoked. Liberals don't even think about that nonsense.

The M.O. of these folks is rather predictable....they have found themselves in a somewhat fortunate circumstance, and so it's time to look down on others somehow. The OP has an MBA "from a good school," and if you don't, well then...how dare you think that you're his equal. Folks will do anything to feel better about themselves.

These type of threads are laughable. Whoever said a damn thing about equality to begin with?
It's a conservative thing? I guess someone forgot to tell the NY Times?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/us...usands.html?hp

or Washington Post

Obama lays out liberal vision
He urges new commitment to equality, opportunity
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Good post. There are studies showing that economic inequality correlates with signs of social distress such as high rates of addiction, violence, teen pregnancy, STDs, divorce etc ---all problems that the U.S. has.

High economic inequality also correlates with religiosity, i.e. highly unequal countries like the U.S. have high levels of religiosity whereas countries like Sweden which are more equal have low levels of religiosity. The question would be does religiosity lead to social strife or does social strife cause people to feel insecure and stressed and turn to religion? There are some indications it is the latter.
I vote this as most ignorant post of the thread.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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I vote this as most ignorant post of the thread.
why?
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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Oh, I don't know.

Could it be that our founding fathers (being the pesky liberals that they were) delineated equal rights as our purpose to exist as a new and seperate nation?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...."

Just a guess.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I avoid these problems by not committing crimes. Shocking I know but there you have it.
Like I told you before it just may a matter of time until you actually have to confront racism and or unequality. You will find that all that you have to do is Look like someone that committed a crime. ASk those brothers in Boston when a white woman claimed that she was car jacked by a black man.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Like I told you before it just may a matter of time until you actually have to confront racism and or unequality. You will find that all that you have to do is Look like someone that committed a crime. ASk those brothers in Boston when a white woman claimed that she was car jacked by a black man.
Who says that I haven't? It just doesn't stop me from setting and obtaining goals.

Besides why would I base my world outlook based on the isolated experience in Boston 20 years ago?
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I'm not understanding this fixation Obama and liberals have with equality. Folks have varying degrees of skills that are demanded in the market place. Is the goal here to have some unskilled worker live in the same manner as somebody who went to school to develop skills in demand like becoming a doctor?

To me equality means equality under the law and a fair chance to improve your life through the choices and efforts you make. What's the end game in regards to equality for you liberals?
Equality when it comes to wages has to do with equal work for equal pay.

Equality when it comes to sexuality means let gay people get married because they are humans like everyone else.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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Paul, G. 2009. The chronic dependence of popular religiosity upon dysfunctional psychosociological conditions. Evol. Psychol. 7:398–441.

Paul constructed an index of social health for 17 prosperous First World democracies, the “Successful Societies Scale” (SSS). This incorporated 25 indices of social well-being, including rates of homicide, incarceration, juvenile morality and adolescent abortion, the incidence of venereal disease and alcohol consumption, corruption, levels of poverty and income disparity, and so on. It turns out that on the 10-point SSS scale, the United States, which scored 2.9, ranked lowest, with many countries substantially higher (e.g., Sweden was 7.1, Japan 6.0, Italy 5.6, and Australia 4.8). In fact, the United States ranked dead last in 14 of the 25 categories and was above average in only five. Despite America's self-image as a healthy and wealthy nation, Paul's data show that, compared to other countries, we are a sick society.

Paul correlated SSS scores among nations with statistics on religiosity. Correlations were substantial: social dysfunction is significantly and positively correlated with religiosity.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Oh, I don't know.

Could it be that our founding fathers (being the pesky liberals that they were) delineated equal rights as our purpose to exist as a new and seperate nation?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...."

Just a guess.
What rights are being denied to one group of people that others enjoy?
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:13 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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Wow, dude doesn't understand equality? Is this really life?

I know, its amazing. He/she equates equal opportunity with mandating everyone is, err, the same
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