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View Poll Results: What do you think of the idea of whites becoming a Minority in America?
I don't want it to have a negative affect on America 5 8.62%
As long as the core principals of America is believe in we might be ok. 9 15.52%
Do you think it can be stopped? 7 12.07%
I think it will result in a less free, less prosperous nation 9 15.52%
I think it will result in a failing state like South Africa 8 13.79%
I think It will end in conflict 8 13.79%
I think it will end the American Culture as we have know it 14 24.14%
Other, explain 10 17.24%
Skin color does not matter culture and ideology does. 23 39.66%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-01-2013, 01:49 PM
 
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Both outsourcing and illegal immigration hurts American job prospects. Note how they jump all over the GOP for supposedly being fans of outsourcing but never criticize the left for desiring amnesty for illegal aliens who are taking American jobs? I say we do away with both. The left however has another agenda also. They'd rather kill American jobs than to lose the ethnocentric Hispanic vote.
Come on, Oldglory, you're almost there! Why don't you go all the way and admit that the right has the same exact problem that the left does. Change lose the ethnocentric Hispanic vote to lose the votes of the 1% and you have described the dilemma the GOP has 100%.

 
Old 08-01-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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Problem for you is 75%-90% of even legal white immigration from all of Canada, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand are potential new Democrats when they become citizens, considering that the conservative parties in their respective countries are almost always to the left of the GOP on just about everything
Not on everything. Australia and New Zealand beat the US on any economic freedom ranking. Canada beat US on some rankings. If you include obamacare, then both New Zealand, Canada and especially Australia has lower government spending.

US is not the only conservative country out there. The difference is on social policies. But even there it is not that different with the exception of gay rights. Many Australians are pro-life, many would like to have death penalty and carry a gun. If they choose to immigrate to the US it is likely because they like the US. So no, 75-90% of legal white immigrants are not Democrats. And many of them will be just as hated by liberals as Republicans are.
 
Old 08-01-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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NO matter how you slice it, a supermajority of immigrants from ALL countries that enter the US are potential new Democrats. Unless you shut the border off completely, legally and the southern border, you'll have to deal with the fact that even legal immigration brings in people who are naturally drawn to the Democrats.



All I hear are more word games being played. Neo-cons are right-wing, end of story. You seem to think that anyone that doesn't subscribe to total or partial anarchy (aka Libertarianism) is a leftist/liberal/communist/socialist

Nope, not at all
Yeah of course they would be, they cant see how leftist ideologues always failed beucase that is all they have ever known, and lets be honest how could you compete with free money?


No they are not..Real Republicans are libertarians Ron and Rand Paul, not Bush and sons, or that fatty from Jersey...
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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The left is getting very scared, they see the millions of Americans that are waking up to their lies...so the have you use fear in order to shut them up, only its no longer working...
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Yeah of course they would be, they cant see how leftist ideologues always failed beucase that is all they have ever known, and lets be honest how could you compete with free money?
Actually the Democrats are not as popular as you think they are. They don't win due to their popularity, but due to the failures of the GOP. If I could vote in the US, I would have voted for Obama twice. Not because I like Obama, but the alternative is worse.

I don't really see free money outcompeting Republicans. I see Republican stupidity outcompeting Republicans. First they nominated Bush, who was a disaster and hardly did anything that was an achievement. Then we got McCain and to top it off Romney. All of them are terrible candidates especially Romney who didn't even want to be President. And at the same time Republicans are voting down popular laws, and refusing to cooperate, just to score political brownie points.

For GOP to do better it does not need Democrats to do worse. And they do not need to become Democrats like Liberals suggest. They just need to get their party in order. Some advice I would give is. Cooperate more, elect better candidates who can connect to voters, lie less and make yourself look less stupid to educated voters, and stop hating the gays and minorities.
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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How is that a good thing? what do you gain be this happening? what is the value of it?
Makes conversations with them more interesting. Would hate to be stuck in a community where everyone had the same exact upbringing, views, life experiences, etc. Its one of the reasons why I left rural America.
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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You discussed skin pigmentation not race and that is what I addressed. Sure some whites think they are better than other races but the majority do not. There are other races/ethnic groups who think the same way so what is your point? Illegal immigration is diluting not only the anglo white population in this country but also the black population. Along with that comes the dilution of our identifying culture, language and heritage. I don't know about you but I object to that happening via illegal immigration. It is not a separate debate it is the reason for the above and the topic at hand.
Ok, what about this: even if we closed the borders tomorrow, "whiteness", both in skin pigmentation and ethnicity, would still be diluted with each passing year. Is that a problem? Why or why not?
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Actually the Democrats are not as popular as you think they are. They don't win due to their popularity, but due to the failures of the GOP. If I could vote in the US, I would have voted for Obama twice. Not because I like Obama, but the alternative is worse.

I don't really see free money outcompeting Republicans. I see Republican stupidity outcompeting Republicans. First they nominated Bush, who was a disaster and hardly did anything that was an achievement. Then we got McCain and to top it off Romney. All of them are terrible candidates especially Romney who didn't even want to be President. And at the same time Republicans are voting down popular laws, and refusing to cooperate, just to score political brownie points.

For GOP to do better it does not need Democrats to do worse. And they do not need to become Democrats like Liberals suggest. They just need to get their party in order. Some advice I would give is. Cooperate more, elect better candidates who can connect to voters, lie less and make yourself look less stupid to educated voters, and stop hating the gays and minorities.
I know the Neo cons of the party are making us Democratic party light..
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Makes conversations with them more interesting. Would hate to be stuck in a community where everyone had the same exact upbringing, views, life experiences, etc. Its one of the reasons why I left rural America.
how is that bad? a sense of being, belonging, community, unity...
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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Ok, what about this: even if we closed the borders tomorrow, "whiteness", both in skin pigmentation and ethnicity, would still be diluted with each passing year. Is that a problem? Why or why not?
What part of culture not color can you not understand?
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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how is that bad? a sense of being, belonging, community, unity...
Bored out of my gourd
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