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Old 02-04-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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The boy scouts don't want to promote your lifestyle. They do want to promote the heterosexual lifestyle. That's what institutions do, they promote certain things they consider important. As it stands, people who engage in the homosexual lifestyle are not wanted as role models for boys by the scouts. Go ahead and start a homosexual scouts, but don't push yourself on people who want nothing with you.
There is no such thing as a " gay lifestyle". Stop talking about things you have no clue about.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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There is no such thing as a " gay lifestyle". Stop talking about things you have no clue about.
Having sex with men is a lifestyle. Is it not?
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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Sex outside of marriage is a sin.
According to you maybe.

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Marriage is between a man and a woman. Ergo homosexual lifestyle is a sin.
The Bible never says marriage is exclusively between a man and a woman. It's the most common arrangement, seeing as it's the majority, but Jesus Christ never banned same-sex marriage. Your understanding of the Bible is completely wrong.

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Note marriage between a man and woman is a Christian bedrock, not something subject to revision by law.
And yet Protestants absolutely opposed Christianity having anything to do with marriage for hundreds of years, so much so they demanded the State take control of it. It was viewed as a barbaric, "worldly thing".
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Since our government isn't a theocracy your understanding of Christianity is irrelevant to the man made laws governing marriage in this nation.
That has nothing to do with the Scouts. They can create an institution that promotes their values and excludes people who don't share their values.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:50 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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According to you maybe.
According to Christianity.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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That has nothing to do with the Scouts. They can create an institution that promotes their values and excludes people who don't share their values.
Yes well the boy scouts have decided to no longer exclude homosexuals so evidently the boy scouts think that homosexuals do share their values. So what is your problem?
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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Having sex with men is a lifestyle. Is it not?
No, it's not. No two people share the same lifestyle, regardless of their behavior. Sex is a very tiny part of any person's life, including gays. That doesn't define their existence. It is you anti-gays who obsess of gay sex. A man who has never had sex is still gay if he is emotionally or romantically attracted to other men.

Sexual Orientation refers to attractions. Involuntary chemical reactions in the brain that control who we perceive as attractive and desirable. It can be from an emotional perspective, a romantic one, and/or a sexual/physical one.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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According to Christianity.
There are 38,000 denominations of Christianity. They don't all agree. The view of no sex before marriage was fabricated by Saint Augustine, and is not historic to Judeo-Christianity.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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No, it's not. No two people share the same lifestyle, regardless of their behavior. Sex is a very tiny part of any person's life, including gays. That doesn't define their existence. It is you anti-gays who obsess of gay sex. A man who has never had sex is still gay if he is emotionally or romantically attracted to other men.

Sexual Orientation refers to attractions. Involuntary chemical reactions in the brain that control who we perceive as attractive and desirable. It can be from an emotional perspective, a romantic one, and/or a sexual/physical one.
A man who hasn't had sex with another man is not living the homosexual lifestyle. If he were to marry a woman and have kids, he'd be perfectly welcome in the scouts. Attraction is not a sin.

A man might be attracted to little children, but if he doesn't act upon it he committed no crime. Impulses are not sins or crimes. But living them is. In the case of the scouts they don't want anyone who has sex with another man. Just like they don't want someone who see's prostitutes. Just like they don't want someone who takes Heroin. Too bad, not everyone is willing to accept you. That's a part of life.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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A man who hasn't had sex with another man is not living the homosexual lifestyle. If he were to marry a woman and have kids, he'd be perfectly welcome in the scouts. Attraction is not a sin.

A man might be attracted to little children, but if he doesn't act upon it he committed no crime. Impulses are not sins or crimes. But living them is. In the case of the scouts they don't want anyone who has sex with another man. Just like they don't want someone who see's prostitutes. Just like they don't want someone who takes Heroin. Too bad, not everyone is willing to accept you. That's a part of life.
And how do the Scouts know whether someone is sleeping with another man? Is there a form you fill out that asks if you're having sex with men on it?

Are divorcers or adulterers banned from the scouts? Do the scouts investigate and kick them out if someone had a divorce? Jesus actually said that's a sin. Jesus said nothing about gays.
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