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Old 02-04-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Why would they need to discuss alternative adult lifestyles? Do the boy scouts discuss heterosexual behavior often? Are these boys being shown heterosexual pornography?
Exactly!!

I honestly don't think the kids are going to care either way and if parents don't make it a point to say, "Your new Scout leader, Joe, is straight and married to a woman," then there is no reason to say, "Your new Scout leader, Dave, is gay and married to a man."

Of course, if questions are asked, then they should be answered honestly. But again, I think for most kids, the issue is way more important to their parents than it is to them, especially since, more and more, those two women who live next door will no longer be called "roommates," but what they really are: a same sex married couple, maybe with kids of their own who are in Scouts.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Sex outside of marriage is a sin.
Well, with more and more states legalizing same sex marriage, then that whole "sex outside of marriage is a sin" thing no longer applies, does it (at least in those states)?
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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And how do the Scouts know whether someone is sleeping with another man? Is there a form you fill out that asks if you're having sex with men on it?

Are divorcers or adulterers banned from the scouts? Do the scouts investigate and kick them out if someone had a divorce? Jesus actually said that's a sin. Jesus said nothing about gays.
An open homosexual obviously. If he hides it then no one is to know. If he doesn't then well.

The scouts can pick and choose who they want. It's perfectly fine for them to be willing to accept adulterers and not homosexuals. Their institution, their rules.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Well, with more and more states legalizing same sex marriage, then that whole "sex outside of marriage is a sin" thing no longer applies, does it (at least in those states)?
This is an institution recognized by the church. The state can pass laws but that doesn't change the fact the church doesn't recognize their union as a marriage.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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This is an institution recognized by the church. The state can pass laws but that doesn't change the fact the church doesn't recognize their union as a marriage.
Not all churches.

There are a number of churches in my state that are performing marriage ceremonies for same sex couples.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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Not all churches.

There are a number of churches in my state that are performing marriage ceremonies for same sex couples.
Heresy exists obviously. Especially in western countries where they confuse religion for liberalism.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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Maybe their judgement is better than, wel,,,, YOURS!!!!

Yeah, they sure did elect the right guy...


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Old 02-04-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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The BSA as with any group should not be allowed to discriminate against individuals based on those protected by things called rights. Whether "they" want to or not, they probably won't have much choice but to allow gays to remain in or be inducted in because "they" won't have a choice.

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The boy scouts don't want to promote your lifestyle. They do want to promote the heterosexual lifestyle. That's what institutions do, they promote certain things they consider important. As it stands, people who engage in the homosexual lifestyle are not wanted as role models for boys by the scouts. Go ahead and start a homosexual scouts, but don't push yourself on people who want nothing with you.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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Since our government isn't a theocracy your understanding of Christianity is irrelevant to the man made laws governing marriage in this nation.
Precisley!
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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The BSA as with any group should not be allowed to discriminate against individuals based on those protected by things called rights. Whether "they" want to or not, they probably won't have much choice but to allow gays to remain in or be inducted in because "they" won't have a choice.
It's not a right of anyone to be included in every group or institution that pops up. That's insane thinking.
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