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The whole you need a 'prescription' is a racket by doctors and insurance companies. Put a warning on the bottle, and sell any medicine without a prescription. If someone wants to ignore the warnings then let him pay the price.
This goes with BC. I honestly don't care about this issue. I didn't bother reading to see if anyone cares but I don't care.
Telling the dependent classes to "use condoms" is a joke.
Providing incentives for RELIABLE birth control like the pill, rather than paying for more dependent babies, is a good start. Technological development of a form of birth control that will work for years at a time would be even better.
It shouldn't even be an issue. Unplanned pregnancies are a burden
on society. Medicaid will be exceeding that of Medicare. Its killing the nation.
Paying for the pill is a small price to pay IMO.
It shouldn't even be an issue. Unplanned pregnancies are a burden
on society. Medicaid will be exceeding that of Medicare. Its killing the nation.
Paying for the pill is a small price to pay IMO.
make '''the pill''' OTC, and then pay for it just like you pay for advil
It shouldn't even be an issue. Unplanned pregnancies are a burden
on society. Medicaid will be exceeding that of Medicare. Its killing the nation.
Paying for the pill is a small price to pay IMO.
Maybe a negative birth rate is killing the nation, also.
Because all of the people who have insurance through that company, through their premiums, PAY FOR the things that insurance covers. Birth control is not a medication. It is a convenience product based upon behavioral lifestyle choices. People who do not wish to fund behavioral lifestyle choices for other people should not be required to do so. Many people equate birth control with Viagra, which is a poor comparison. Men with medical issues that prevent proper erectile functioning have no choice but to seek out medication which alleviates the condition or disease.
20yrsinBranson
I thought we went through that a few years ago. It's not a medication, LOL! The BCP has many medical uses, and half the cons (at least) think it's a dangerous substance, but "it's not a medication". And I'm Tinkerbell.
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Originally Posted by Ivorytickler
Sterilization would be cheaper because it would guarantee there'd never be a pregnancy.
The falicy of your argument is the fact that most people will, eventually, have the number of kids they want and still expect the insurance company to pay the expenses surrounding the births. Paying for BC doesn't, necessarily, get the insurance company out of paying for the births. It just delays the bill.
And condoms are cheaper....
We are talking personal preferences here and medical insurance shouldn't have to pay for preferences.
Actually, sterilization is surgery. Insurance could probably pay for a lot of BCP for what a tubal ligation costs.
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Originally Posted by nei
And insurance doesn't pay for that. If women can get covered for birth control, men should be able to get condoms covered.
Get your doctor to write a prescription and you can pay for it through your HSA.
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Originally Posted by nei
Getting pregnant is a choice, too. And not a medical condition. Why should insurance companies have to cover pregnancies?
Pregnancy is a health condition. It can sometimes be a medical condition; moreso when the woman doesn't get any prenatal care.
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The problem with that is they are dangerous so medical care is necessary if you use them. Many women (myself included) develop blood clots while on the pill (I was put on the pill as a teen to regulate my periods (which never did become regular) and ended up having a stroke at the ripe old age of 18 when a blood clot lodged at the base of the right side of my brain.). BC isn't by prescription because the condition it treats is a medical condition. They're prescription because of the conditions they can cause. They are a choice that comes with risks. It's the risks that makes them prescription.
I"m sorry for your problems. The BCPs have changed a lot since you were 18. IIRC, you are the woman who would rather her kids get cancer than take a vaccine. You're an engineer, honey, not a health care professional.
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
make '''the pill''' OTC, and then pay for it just like you pay for advil
too bad the liberals lack common sense
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Originally Posted by TrapperJohn
I was just about to post the same thing. Have them see a doc. They find a pill that works for them and they pay a few dollars a month OTC.
Seems you two missed this a few posts prior to yours:
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Originally Posted by Ceece
Make BCP's available over the counter and then we'll talk.
Because all of the people who have insurance through that company, through their premiums, PAY FOR the things that insurance covers. Birth control is not a medication. It is a convenience product based upon behavioral lifestyle choices. People who do not wish to fund behavioral lifestyle choices for other people should not be required to do so. Many people equate birth control with Viagra, which is a poor comparison. Men with medical issues that prevent proper erectile functioning have no choice but to seek out medication which alleviates the condition or disease.
20yrsinBranson
If it requires a prescription it's a medication. It does stuff to hormones. Sounds like a medicine to me. If insurance covered birth control only for married women would that be less of a behavioral lifestyle choice for you? More acceptable?
Because all of the people who have insurance through that company, through their premiums, PAY FOR the things that insurance covers. Birth control is not a medication. It is a convenience product based upon behavioral lifestyle choices. People who do not wish to fund behavioral lifestyle choices for other people should not be required to do so. Many people equate birth control with Viagra, which is a poor comparison. Men with medical issues that prevent proper erectile functioning have no choice but to seek out medication which alleviates the condition or disease.
20yrsinBranson
I will comment on the bolded text ... so we don't pay for ANY preventable lifestyle diseases or injuries either?
MOST cases of Type2 Diabetes are preventable, MOST cases of heart disease are preventable, lung cancer and other diseases in smokers, liver disease in those that drink a bit too much, strains and broken limbs of those that play contact sports, I don't think I need to continue in order to prove that excuse is rather silly.
Just be F'n honest ... some don't want to or can't have sexual relations with another person, and they believe since they can't or won't, NO ONE else should either.
Sexual repression does distort thinking in other areas.
If God(yes, I believe there is a God) didn't intend on Humans having intercourse for other reasons than procreation why does it bring so much joy to those involved and isn't it like it is in most other mammals?
Is this a test like all the buried Dinosaur bones?
Last edited by TapperCheck; 03-07-2013 at 08:59 PM..
If it requires a prescription it's a medication. It does stuff to hormones. Sounds like a medicine to me. If insurance covered birth control only for married women would that be less of a behavioral lifestyle choice for you? More acceptable?
Wait - the same liberal tree huggers screaming about hormones in milk and meat and eating organic foods are ingesting hormones on purpose?
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