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Old 04-26-2013, 03:47 AM
 
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It replaces use tax. Right now, when you purchase an item online, the seller does not collect sales tax and as a result you must pay use tax (which is the same percentage rate). With this new proposal, the seller collects sales tax, and you are no longer liable for use tax. Neither sales tax nor use tax is new and the consumer will not pay any more taxes than they used to.

A vendor with $1 million in sales is large enough to use a service provider that will update their software.
Again all I can say is read the bill. It clearly is defining a new tax and a category not currently covered in current state law. It says this clearly. Use is part of sales tax. Some states don't have sales tax or have it on certain items. This essentially is creating a new "jurisdiction", basically.

Places like Amazon will likely have to have small vendors charge the sales tax anyway because it becomes difficult to accommodate. More complex than simply updating software.

Paying "more" tax is not the only issue here.
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Old 04-26-2013, 03:56 AM
 
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Again all I can say is read the bill. It clearly is defining a new tax and a category not currently covered in current state law. It says this clearly. Use is part of sales tax. Some states don't have sales tax or have it on certain items. This essentially is creating a new "jurisdiction", basically.

Places like Amazon will likely have to have small vendors charge the sales tax anyway because it becomes difficult to accommodate. More complex than simply updating software.
I think Amazon will only be liable for their associated companies. They likely aren't going to force an individual person or company to collect tax when it isn't required.

Amazon.com Help: About the Internet Tax Freedom Act
Amazon.com Help: About Use Tax Notification
Amazon.com Help: About Sales Tax on Items Sold by Amazon.com
Amazon.com Help: About Sales Tax on Items Sold by Sellers on Amazon.com
Amazon.com Help: About Tax Requirements for States in which Tax isn't Collected on Orders
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:03 AM
 
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They will be dependent on the software. Not as straightforward as it appears. Liability only protects them from software errors. I am talking about the various types of small vendors they have. It will be far easier to charge tax instead of not charging it.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:48 AM
 
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It's been mentioned numerous times in this thread that this is not a new tax. It appears that you have comprehension issues as you keep suggesting this is a new tax. The customer is effected, but in a positive way. They no longer have to track their receipts as the tax is collected at the time of the transaction.

I suggest you start here: //www.city-data.com/forum/polit...sales-tax.html and read the entire thread. Hope this helps.
I'm sorry but you're the one with the comprehension issues.

Here.......let me help you:

If I'm not paying $10 on an item now and will have to pay $10 in the future, and said new charge is a TAX, well.....................

Think!

See how easy it is.

Glad to assist.

BTW, it's AFFECTED, not EFFECTED.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:54 AM
 
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I'm sorry but you're the one with the comprehension issues.

Here.......let me help you:

If I'm not paying $10 on an item now and will have to pay $10 in the future, and said new charge is a TAX, well.....................

Think!

See how easy it is.

Glad to assist.

BTW, it's AFFECTED, not EFFECTED.
The only way that you are not paying taxes on online purchases now is if you live in a state with no sales tax or you are evading taxes. Are you evading taxes? If so, then you're the reason for this online tax proposal. You should thank yourself.

Realistically, all it does is move WHEN you pay the tax. It doesn't make you pay anymore than you used to. Why are you guys not smart enough to understand that? Especially after it's been pointed out to you repeatedly.
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Old 04-26-2013, 05:48 AM
 
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If onlines sales continue to be free from collecting sales taxes, then I maintain that brick and mortar businesses should no longer have to do so.
It was extra bookkeeping for me, too. Shouldn't I have been able to rely on the good,honest,willing patriotic citizens of the USA to report their purchases on the Use Tax line of their returns?

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Old 04-26-2013, 05:57 AM
 
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The new American idiocy ... public demanding more taxes. Never in the history of civilized societies have the people become so dumbed down as to enjoy paying tax so much, that they want to pay more.

Congratulations ... some of you are the dumbest people since dinosaurs roamed the planet.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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They will be dependent on the software. Not as straightforward as it appears. Liability only protects them from software errors. I am talking about the various types of small vendors they have. It will be far easier to charge tax instead of not charging it.
I imagine that they will have an option of letting vendors opt in or out of having the software collect tax. That is kinda how it is now. Not every vendor collects tax, bur for those that do the tax is calculated and collected at checkout. Shipping is the same way, not every seller charges the same shipping. Many offer free shipping, some charge a flat fee and a few charge the actual cost.

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The only way that you are not paying taxes on online purchases now is if you live in a state with no sales tax or you are evading taxes. Are you evading taxes? If so, then you're the reason for this online tax proposal. You should thank yourself.

Realistically, all it does is move WHEN you pay the tax. It doesn't make you pay anymore than you used to. Why are you guys not smart enough to understand that? Especially after it's been pointed out to you repeatedly.
I have to be honest. I have never paid sales tax to the state when the seller did not collect it. I'm pretty sure sales tax is required on used goods too. The state may not be able to enforce collection, but that doesn't really change the obligation.
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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The new American idiocy ... public demanding more taxes. Never in the history of civilized societies have the people become so dumbed down as to enjoy paying tax so much, that they want to pay more.

Congratulations ... some of you are the dumbest people since dinosaurs roamed the planet.
The dumb people are the ones who don't realize that this proposal is actually saving consumers time. They no longer have to keep track of receipts and pay taxes at a later time. Even better is that it stops criminals from evading taxes.

You people are always for big government and want the federal government regulating. The removal of the freedom from states in 1991 in regards to online taxes is anti-American. I can't believe you want a heavily regulated anti-American state.
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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I have to be honest. I have never paid sales tax to the state when the seller did not collect it. I'm pretty sure sales tax is required on used goods too. The state may not be able to enforce collection, but that doesn't really change the obligation.
The proposal is to capture taxes from those who fail to pay. You are a prime example.
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