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Old 05-02-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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Which is EXACTLY why no tolerance rules are utterly ridiculous.
huh?
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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Get your head out of your arse.

In most legal cases, INTENT, is a prime issue.

He made a MISTAKE and tried to correct it using COMMON SENSE, he called his Mother to come and get it.

The punishment come no where close to "fit the crime"

When this ruling is challenged and overturned, we will come back and be ecstatic to see all you people with no common sense at crow.
Um, she's agreeing with YOU.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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Why are we arguing about this? The fact is is that cars are searched on school grounds without warrant and dubious probable cause everyday. Also every school I have been to has had a resource officer working at all times. Are we really going to speak in theory when the boundaries of these rules always get stretched and broken without recourse? What is the point?
Why are we arguing that personal property is personal property and its thus illegal to search them without probable cause? Maybe because if its wrong, its wrong..
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:22 AM
 
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Maybe that stuff is true, you certainly don't have legitimate evidence though. That is not the point I am making. The DA and the Officials have certain responsibilities, they let this kid off, what happens the next time something like this happens and its a legit BAD kid? The kid on the other hand could have avoided all of this by simply walking out of class, getting in his truck, and leaving. The kid should be cut some slack, too easy to agree with. Where I take exception is the liberalism thing. Are you admiring his honesty or defending your culture? If he had a little pot in his truck and the same thing happened? Cocaine? Furthermore, are we so certain that the story is reported unbiased?
"they let this kid off,". Have you ever heard of a reprimand? A 2 day suspension?

Why is it OK, and happens ALL the time, a crook is caught breaking MANY laws and the DA allows many of the charges to be Plea Bargained away?

The kid made an HONEST mistake. There was no INTENT to break the rules.

Why did the teacher in the SAME school, get different treatment?
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:23 AM
 
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I don't get the cocaine and marijuana references.

Cocaine, pot, and an unloaded and secured firearm are all harmless things and having any of those items in a vehicle on school property should not be grounds for expulsion.

Defending my culture?

What does that mean?
Wrong. Cocaine and marijuana are ILLEGAL to have. The shotgun is NOT.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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"they let this kid off,". Have you ever heard of a reprimand? A 2 day suspension?

Why is it OK, and happens ALL the time, a crook is caught breaking MANY laws and the DA allows many of the charges to be Plea Bargained away?

The kid made an HONEST mistake. There was no INTENT to break the rules.

Why did the teacher in the SAME school, get different treatment?
Exactly, I know someone who got caught with a knife in their backpack at school recently, (about 3 weeks ago), he got 3 days suspension because they determined there was no intent to harm.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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Get your head out of your arse.

In most legal cases, INTENT, is a prime issue.

He made a MISTAKE and tried to correct it using COMMON SENSE, he called his Mother to come and get it.

The punishment come no where close to "fit the crime"

When this ruling is challenged and overturned, we will come back and be ecstatic to see all you people with no common sense at crow.
You totally misread the post you quoted. Ceece is on the side of the kid. Go back and look at their previous posts in this thread. You are jumping on someone who is agreeing with you.

I've always told my kids to be honest no matter what. If you disobey or make a mistake, you may have to face consequences for that, but being honest will not compound that mistake. Clearly integrity isn't valued any more. The kid made a mistake, and he tried to rectify it and was honest.
The principal had no problem showing mercy to the asst. principal for the same mistake, but they threw the book at this honest kid. It's sad.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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How old are you? I never had my lockers searched and I certainly did not have my car ever searched while in High School. Where did you go to High School? Or better yet..what state.
"I never had my lockers searched". Maybe there never was need.

I never had mine searched either but, I knew the rules.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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He broke the law, being an Eagle Scout should not matter in the decision.
Was it a law or a school rule?
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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Having the parents pick up the gun doesnt change the fact that he had the gun. I think whom has possesion of the gun after the fact is the least of anyone's worries.
By that reasoning as soon as the mother took possession of the gun on school property, she could have been charged. Why wasn't she?
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