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Old 05-03-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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On the other hand that might as well be one of the key reasons why US society is so fragmented. Words can be dangerous like arms ...
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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In the US you can't say anything, either. Else you might get sued or society might punish you in other ways. It is an illusion to think one can say anything without consequences. Nor should that even be a goal.
In the US, you can't exercise your freedoms that would infringe on the rights of others. In Canada, there are far more restrictions including restrictions on offensive and hate speech.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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In the US, you can't exercise your freedoms that would infringe on the rights of others. In Canada, there are far more restrictions including restrictions on offensive and hate speech.
Genocide in Germany infringe on quite a few rights. Do you think that would have happened so easily if hate speech was illegal to begin with?
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:55 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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In the US, you can't exercise your freedoms that would infringe on the rights of others. In Canada, there are far more restrictions including restrictions on offensive and hate speech.
I absolutely support that, it is like that in most civilized countries... The only thing that needs careful attention is where to draw the line, there should be a broad consensus on that, not some few people deciding supposedly in the name of everyone.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I don't think anyone mentioned that because of Canada's financial regulation system, they avoided the housing crash and the bank crash.
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Do you think the Canadian government would have prosecuted a lot of banksters, if their financial institutions did what ours did? Do they have the "to big to fail" mentality that infects our government?
That calls for me to make a speculation.

What is true is that there were regulations in place that prevented financial institutions from doing what U.S. financial institutions were doing.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I absolutely support that, it is like that in most civilized countries... The only thing that needs careful attention is where to draw the line, there should be a broad consensus on that, not some few people deciding supposedly in the name of everyone.
Restrictions on free speech aren't really indicative of civilization, IMO.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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As much as I like Canada and think they have a good thing going on up there, I don't appreciate the fact that they don't have freedom of speech. I understand it's a "protected freedom" per their charter, but there are numerous restrictions that wouldn't fly here in the US
When you compare their freedom of speech to our freedom of speech its not like its a HUUUUGE difference.

In both countries we can pretty much say what we want, we can protest, blah blah blah...
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Heh. Except for MPs in the House of Commons. The insults they hurl at each other would make your hair curl.
Yeah. You guys know where to be uncivil and where to avoid it. it's one British tradition that I wish had survived here. We have lost mastery of the well phrased insult.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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Genocide in Germany infringe on quite a few rights. Do you think that would have happened so easily if hate speech was illegal to begin with?
Genocide was supported by hate speech delivered via the Third Reigh's government propaganda. The most effective hate speech is masked as appeals to nationalism, patriotism, and aggressive war-mongering.

There is propaganda in the U.S. too, like the love of unfettered capitalism, the idea that corporate profits are more important than the well-being of the people, and the mindless adulation of wealth and power.

The best defense against propaganda is to question authority and have a critical mind.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Restrictions on free speech aren't really indicative of civilization, IMO.
I kind of disagree. Humans live in a society. Has your mother never reprimanded you for saying hateful things, cursing, etc.? With adults, that external control is gone...
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