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Old 05-10-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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That's to get to heaven -- what Jesus said was never any requirement of living in the USA.
Right, Jesus's commandments stop at the border, right along with your compassion.

 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:48 PM
 
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The welfare state as we know it is a relatively recent phenomena. For 2 thousand years prior the poor showed up on the doorstep of the Catholic church. I admit is wasnt very pretty as Frank McCourt testified. You dont know squat about what I drop in that c ollection on Sunday. Get your heavy handed govt and their insaitiable confiscation of our income outta my face.






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No, Jesus spoke of duties you have as a follower of him. A duty is not something you choose to do. The programs some of you denigrate are merely the codification of those duties and commandments given unto you. If you had the balls to be honest about it, very few of you make any meaningful charitable contributions, anyways. Certainly nor charitable contributions that amount to that which could sustain the poor if the welfare system disappeared. That's the problem so many of you have when you adopt Randian politics but still want to cling to your Christianity.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:50 PM
 
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Norway. They studied both in Belgium for few years though when they were 20s
Why in the world would they leave Norway to come to the USA? Norway has one of the largest safety nets in the world. I would get them on the next flight to Norway for treatment. To do so otherwise is simply selfish and irresponsible.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:51 PM
 
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Which country are your parents orginally from?
He's 50% Cherokee and 50% Hobbit, so he's 100% American.

Hobbits are remarkably industrious and incredibly averse to charity, though we know that charity is itself virtuous, though real Americans would never accept it and might even cry at the thought, still though, we should all make charitable donations because it voluntary and voluntary is better than compulsory because requiring citizens to subsidize others is wrong, unless it's for the military or something, then it is okay and not immoral.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Why in the world would they leave Norway to come to the USA? Norway has one of the largest safety nets in the world. I would get them on the next flight to Norway for treatment. To do so otherwise is simply selfish and irresponsible.
Not to mention stupid. Buy the plane ticket. Get your Dad treated. What the hell is wrong with you?
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Right, Jesus's commandments stop at the border, right along with your compassion.
What does having compassion have to do with a nation having a government run health care system?

Jesus said that people should feed the hungry and heal the sick.

Liberals love to twist Jesus's words to support their socialist agenda - yet they also are quick to trash Christianity every opportunity they get.

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Old 05-10-2013, 10:52 PM
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Norway. They studied both in Belgium for few years though when they were 20s
Norway...

Most of the services for immigrants in this country are geared toward Spanish speakers,unfortunately.

Oddly,that one of the many things I have against immigration.
They all seem to be geared toward ONE group of people.

I will say I think your Mom would have had a better shot at employment in the midwest,particularly Minnesota
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:52 PM
 
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The welfare state as we know it is a relatively recent phenomena. For 2 thousand years prior the poor showed up on the doorstep of the Catholic church. I admit is wasnt very pretty as Frank McCourt testified. You dont know squat about what I drop in that c ollection on Sunday. Get your heavy handed govt and their insaitiable confiscation of our income outta my face.
Well then tell us. You're completely anonymous. How much do you give in charity?
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:53 PM
 
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What does having compassion have to do with a nation having a government run health care system?
Plenty, if it can be shown that a single-payer system would reduce the suffering of the poor and restore dignity to many of them.
 
Old 05-10-2013, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Why in the world would they leave Norway to come to the USA? Norway has one of the largest safety nets in the world. I would get them on the next flight to Norway for treatment. To do so otherwise is simply selfish and irresponsible.
For their kids, nephews, nieces, as well as better weather. Flight tickets are expensive, I need to save money. My dad wants treatement is the US, a country where he was told to die for. Unfortunately, he must go back
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