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Old 05-28-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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I suppose that's better than being hated and murdered.
Not really when you go insane before you die.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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Religion should be banned

LOL, you are starting to sound like a broken record.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: TX
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I think it's going to happen anyway. Best we can do is consider giving We The People more power to vote politicians and/or policies out.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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LOL, you are starting to sound like a broken record.
......says the broken record.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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Religion has no place in politics or public policy.

Anyone who proposes religious based laws belongs in prison.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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So the politicians of iran are apparently proposing a law to let 9 year old marry to fit sharia law, which any western reader will find absurd. In general muslim based laws are a cause for a lot of resentment towards foreign legal systems.

But in a more general basis do you think it's acceptable that politicians argue legislation based on religious beliefs? or use the god so many believe in for their political campaigns?

An example is the discussion about abortions, where there is apparently a large part of america being against abortions calling it "pro life", based on their "christian morals and values".
Even presidential candidates went into this in the last election, but what really gives a christian believer and/or politician the right to tell for example an atheist woman what she can or can't do with her womb and arguably almost alive fetus?

President bush ended the better part of his speaches along the lines with "god bless america", a rather innocent statement, but should the highest ruling person of a modern country really be involving religion in his speaches about governing a country of which the very first founding documents state clearly that religion should have nothing to do with the country?

The very first ammendment of your constitution says
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

what do you think?
It's a tough question. As a former member of the religious right--who joined the religious left--and is now simply "religious", I don't think it's an easy yes or no answer. As a Christian, I can't really help that a lot of my political beliefs are influenced by my Christian faith--being anti war, supportive of universal health care, and supporting social justice for the poor are all influenced by things that Jesus preached. Christianity is part of my identity, and I can't really divorce that from how I conduct and articulate myself in public--nor should I have to--Not I nor any other person of faith (or no faith).

At the same time, I recognize two things: 1) You don't have to be a Christian to support the beliefs stated above and 2) I live in a pluralistic society where not everybody is a Christian. Of course, in a pluralistic society, all viewpoints and worldviews have a right to be heard in the public square. Besides, if the Christian, Muslim, Bhuddist and Atheist come to the same conclusion on say, ways the government can help the poor, then does it matter exactly where their opinions came from. I don't really think so. As long as the poor are helped. Just my two cents.

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Religion has no place in politics or public policy.

Anyone who proposes religious based laws belongs in prison.
Wow, seriously? Sounds like we have a secular fundamentalist on our hands here.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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There's pretty much no such thing as religiously neutral politicians.

You either have politicians that serve God or that serve money

You either have public who worships God or who worships government
You have a very limited view. I know many religious people who really serve money.

Also, atheists worship no one! Atheists have no need for a all powerful figure to take care of them. Be
it a god or government.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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what the heck has that got to do with it anyway?


Irony!

That's what it has to do with it.

Another preachy enemy of religion reaping what he sowed.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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It's said that there are over 20 major religions today, and hundreds of other smaller religions. So no, society should dictate our moral code, not religion.
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