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Old 06-10-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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I understand that reading probably doesn't interest you and that having a single focus, you probably would not be open to learning anything other than the dear leader has spoken, but if you ever want to actually learn a little something, I would recommend "Liberty and Tyranny" to be followed by "Ameritopia". I will warn you however, that reading them may actually make you think. Have a dictionary near as I am relatively sure you will need it.
Insult the poster, insult the president and then give him a reading list? I'm guessing that's reverse psychology since the usual reason to debate something is to persuade people towards your argument.

 
Old 06-10-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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The Socialist turd wanna be dictator is close to achieving his goal---Obama Mussolini "Viva Il Duce"

Soldier Told Not to Read Levin, Limbaugh or Hannity in Uniform | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes
Did you even read the article? He was on duty and at an official event.

I worked for the federal government in a uniformed capacity once upon a time - absolutely no reading materials of any sort that weren't job related if we were on the clock (and no political crap at work). I imagine the policy is the same for a guy work in such a visible position.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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So, if this is true, a sgt is lawyering up to take on his base commander? NOT NOT NOT a smart move.

And going outside the chain-of-command with complaints? If thats true, this sgt should retire as soon as possible.
Wait, you mean there was someone higher than his commander he could have addressed a complaint to?

Like some sort of chain that goes higher? What would that be called I wonder.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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All band members of the 10 premium army bands become E-6 on approval. Doesn't make them real Staff Sergeants.
Right. Not a leader.

“He explained to me that homosexual Soldiers were now afraid of me,” Sommers said. “He showed me a letter from an Army Band colleague that demanded that I publicly apologize (to) the band for my statements and that I should be removed from positions of leadership and influence.”

But you've shown you bias. You have shown you support for different classes of soldiers depending on what they do.

Regardless of your personal prejudice, there is no difference on how someone should act or be treated for their rank.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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The military has since told the soldier, he can read what he wants.
Source?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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He is if it is text only and the title has no sexual overtones. If it has pictures that others can see and be offended by, then he can't.
I'll cede here because the issue is effect on others so cover and title are important. But, I do think reading pornography in any form while on duty would be a no-no.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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Insult the poster, insult the president and then give him a reading list? I'm guessing that's reverse psychology since the usual reason to debate something is to persuade people towards your argument.
The original poster had no interest in debate but rather expressing his opinion which is what I did in return as well.... Now what is the purpose of your response?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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I am unable to visualize him, Levin or Hannity writing books, they only have 3 brain cells between them.
Good Lord, then what does that make you?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:09 AM
 
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The twitter is more problematic, and it depends on how they the factor in that it was a re-tweet, rather than his own tweet. Notice how he has stated that the twitter incident showed a lapse in judgment on his part. But.... it does not rise above the "letter of reprimand" level. He is not going to lose stripes, military members do not lose all their rights when they put on a uniform. Like I said, worst case scenario, he is "encouraged" to quietly retire. Which, by the way, I think should happen.
They are going to factor in the retweet as his own words because of two reasons. First, most people think a retweet is an endorsement of a tweet. Second, it doesn't matter, they want to nail him.

But worse I think is his tweet announcing the party mixed in with politics. If it's a troop event then that's a problem. If it was off base with a few select buddies might be difference. It might come as a surprise to him that there may be homosexuals in the music business.

But the reason I think they are going to go for more than an LOR (and why would you lawyer up for that?) is because he's a spokesperson for the Army. There's now the quandary of him up front at a concert singing a song and dance number with the possibility that a number of the audience is going to know about the incident. And who knows if protests are going to break out outside venues in his support.

He's high profile as a recruitment tool and even more so because he made it so.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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The original poster had no interest in debate but rather expressing his opinion which is what I did in return as well.... Now what is the purpose of your response?
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