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Well, since personal responsibility is still off the table in the liberal universe, government support would seem to be in the best short-term interest and worst long-term interest of the child, but some things have to be.
NFN, why is it Christian haters like yourself only care about a child after he or she is born?
Is it because fetuses can't vote but welfare moms who are too irresponsible to use BC can and do?
Did you have a study to bolster your implication that Christians are less willing to adopt than non-Christians, or is your opinion simply based on blind pig-headed hate and a need to use ad hominem attacks when facts fail you?
Yeah, God {if there is one} knows that there aren't any Christian women in America that have children out of wedlock or abortions. It's just liburul heathens that make unwanted pregnancies. And there's absolutely no Christian conservatives on welfare either.
IMO, people who are responsible use contraception, but conservatives still believe in abstinence, and aspirins between their knees as a contraception method.
I didn't know chielgirl was a Christian hater. Because someone doesn't believe in the Christian ways, that makes them haterz? Why not discuss the topic instead of attacking other members who disagree with certain points of view?
But to deny support for those born, who have a hard enough time of it is disgusting.
It's always so good to deny support to those who need it most.
Do they do that in the country where you live?
And tell me, are you christian?
Seems that they frequently go hand in hand.
Wow... now serving badly-concealed blind hatred at table two. Think about what you're saying before you say it. The majority of charities are Christian-based. Even diehards will begrudgingly admit that!
P.S. The whole thread is a trollfest. I mean c'mon, really!?! Reread the original post, pause, take a deep breath, reread it again, then slap yourself on the forehead for allowing yourself to fall for the bait.
Wow... now serving badly-concealed blind hatred at table two. Think about what you're saying before you say it. The majority of charities are Christian-based. Even diehards will begrudgingly admit that!
P.S. The whole thread is a trollfest. I mean c'mon, really!?! Reread the original post, pause, take a deep breath, reread it again, then slap yourself on the forehead for allowing yourself to fall for the bait.
I see more hatred from the self-identified christians than anyone else in the US.
So sorry that you don't like it.
They never do anything without an ulterior motive.
Yeah, I said never.
Looks like you have a problem with your commandments.
No surprise there.
ROFLOL! My post above was quoted from page 1 (which I didn't make it past btw). I read the post above mine, and see the sentence by NoJiveMan. Now I'm not going to look back through 13-14 pages of posts to see where his point of view stems from because the quote I got from page 1 sums her feelings up quite nicely.
Aaand just in case I need to spell it out... her own words make her a card-carrying member of the Haterz club.
Christians use Christianity as a facade to hide behind to try to bolster their argument. Why are you attacking other members here?
if the kid has reached 3yrs old, and the parent loses their job, then welfare can still be claimed - this is to make people NOT have kids only to get extra cash.
Why 3? If a person has preexisting children and then need to apply for assistance why would they be penalized? Should they have had a crystal ball?
Who pays for the orphanage? What about single dads? Can we have a law that states that a man who makes more than one out-of-wedlock baby and can't/won't support it be sent to govt run "snipping" centers? How about that?
What's so stupid about this thread is that humans have already tried this social experiment and it failed.
Single mothers that can't pay the bills must have welfare cut after the first birth, any more kids then no extra cash - and if they can't pay then the kids must be put into an orphanage
I think that is the way to go, right?
you have, in the past, admitted to being a socialist or a communist and think government should support the entire country so I doubt you really believe this for 1 second...
I am a conservative and even I do not buy this. I do think, after 2 kids no additional money should be provided, but there still has to be some government assistance and no, these kids do not belong in an orphanage. What good would that do, they still have to be supported by the government?numser
Wow... now serving badly-concealed blind hatred at table two. Think about what you're saying before you say it. The majority of charities are Christian-based. Even diehards will begrudgingly admit that!
P.S. The whole thread is a trollfest. I mean c'mon, really!?! Reread the original post, pause, take a deep breath, reread it again, then slap yourself on the forehead for allowing yourself to fall for the bait.
of course it is a trollfest, I think that is what most of the OPs threads are. He preaches living in a welfare state, what's to know why he can't live in the same type of home rich people do, has said welfare including food stamps are great, certainly believes in spreading the wealth and now he wants to cut off welfare for single moms and stick the kids in orphanages or foster homes. Add to add all this, last time I knew, he didn't even live in America. what gives here?
Christians use Christianity as a facade to hide behind to try to bolster their argument. Why are you attacking other members here?
Unless you are one of those Christians how to you know what we really are? You don't have to be a Christian, we live in a county where we can believe in anything we want or not believe but it really blows my mind when those who are not Christians think they know how we feel and choose to put us down. Why are some people so full of hate for any group?
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Think about what you're saying before you say it. The majority of charities are Christian-based. Even diehards will begrudgingly admit that! 
