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Old 06-21-2013, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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the dominoes are starting to topple. hope these gun hating states like the loss of jobs and revenue that was going into their states that is now going into other states.
Do you the vote how flee to the free state will stand what happened and will change their way/voting habits?
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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They aren't moving because a place is hostile to them, they can manufacture in Ct as much as Jack Daniels can manufacture where they are. This company is playing a PR stunt to boost their name at the expense of their own employers.
It's more than that. This will get a little more than zero publicity.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The only thing I didn't like about the article was it didn't say that LIBERTY loving company owners of all kinds were fleeing that crap hole called Connecticut.
You don't like them because they have gun control but you should try to be a little objective, CT has a very good education systems and a high standard of living, Many of the people that work for PTR understand that and will end up remaining rather than move to SC.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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That is the point I am making, clearly they could care less about those 140 people, I hope they are able to find a job that has better respect for their employees and doesn't put politics before their employees.

You can blame the voters and the state all you want, but at the end of the day it is the company that is screwing over their own employees by moving the company. I bet many of them have been with the company for years.
No, the company is making a business decision as to what is in the best interest of the business... Fact is, the only political aspect of this decision is the one that the politicians made.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: NJ
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No, the company is making a business decision as to what is in the best interest of the business... .


What business decsiion would that be? If Ct or any other state adds restrictions, it affects just the sale of the product, not the manufacture of the product.

Jack Daniels is produced in a DRY Tn ccounty. Per your distorted logic, they should move to a county where alcohol sales are legal.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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This is a big so what. The entire industry in Ct employs just 90% of what MetLife employed up there. Met is relocating a huge chunk, and by rumors 100% eventually, of its hq.
Yeah, so what. CT can just make up the difference by raising taxes.

I'd bet money that PTR and Metlife left for many of the same reasons, the PTR decision may just have been hastened by recent actions.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, the company is making a business decision as to what is in the best interest of the business... Fact is, the only political aspect of this decision is the one that the politicians made.
So their business decision is to spend a small fortune to move an entire company to another state to manufacture something in a gun friendly state...yet their current state doesn't effect them with manufacturing. That sounds like a bad business decision made on a political decision. Again, sucks for those workers they are willing to abandon over politics.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Yeah, so what. CT can just make up the difference by raising taxes.

I'd bet money that PTR and Metlife left for many of the same reasons, the PTR decision may just have been hastened by recent actions.
Met Life is reducing their entire Northeast footprint as well as their total US headcount for sound, financial reasons. They have articulated them well (No doubt too big a word for anyone at PTR to understand..but that's ok, they will be using terms like "reckon" now!!).

Do not disparage Met Life by aligning them with wing nuts solely concerned that "their itty bitty feelings was hurt".

Notice Sturm Ruger, which is professionally managed and several times PTR's size has not been vocal. Nor Colt. It is always the little runt companies like PTR who fail to realize they are not significant, and their rants change no minds.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:10 PM
 
Location: NJ
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It would be interesting to see where the 140 jobs number came from: Here is a letter their CEO wrote this year , with the quantity of jobs in the letter.

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[SIZE=3]"My company employs 37 people here in Bristol, CT – most in skilled labor positions. Our lowest paid employee receives $14 per hour and our average shop rate is $17.75. We offer health, dental, disability and life insurance along with 401K matching. These are the kinds of solid, community building manufacturing jobs that everyone in the state claims to want and need. Further, we support three other local businesses almost entirely with services that we vend out, which comprise another 19 full time skilled labor positions. In total, I am writing this letter on behalf of 56 people that are entirely dependent on our business for their livelihoods ".[/SIZE]
[]http://www.cga.ct.gov/asaferconnecti...%20Fiorini.pdf[/SIZE]
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37 employees-not much more than your local Walgreens store. (LOL)!!!At a median wage below median Ct manufacturing, and but a fragment of overall Ct median wage levels.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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It would be interesting to see where the 140 jobs number came from: Here is a letter their CEO wrote this year , with the quantity of jobs in the letter.

[LEFT][/LEFT]
[SIZE=3]"My company employs 37 people here in Bristol, CT – most in skilled labor positions. Our lowest paid employee receives $14 per hour and our average shop rate is $17.75. We offer health, dental, disability and life insurance along with 401K matching. These are the kinds of solid, community building manufacturing jobs that everyone in the state claims to want and need. Further, we support three other local businesses almost entirely with services that we vend out, which comprise another 19 full time skilled labor positions. In total, I am writing this letter on behalf of 56 people that are entirely dependent on our business for their livelihoods ".[/SIZE]
[]http://www.cga.ct.gov/asaferconnecti...%20Fiorini.pdf[/SIZE]
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37 employees-not much more than your local Walgreens store. (LOL)!!!At a median wage below median Ct manufacturing, and but a fragment of overall Ct median wage levels.
Interesting stuff. I guess those 37 jobs will nudge the unemployment rate up by .000001% or something. Anyway, it seems we're not doing too badly compared to the rest of the country, despite the economy.

Labor Market Information - State of Connecticut vs. United States Unemployment Rate
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